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Rah7265
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Right I’m going to try and add a picture, if it does work I would would appreciate a date and identification on this one, it came from my mates farm in Devon, the farm has historic links to Hartland Abbey.
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Nice coin! Looks Saxon or do I mean Norman. No idea really :lol:
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I hope someone knows what it is, now I’ve dragged it out of its safe keeping place it’s bugging me not knowing it’s age or what it is.
Now I’ve found out how to add pictures I’ll put a few more finds on for ID and general interest.
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I believe it's a WILLIAM I THE LION of Scotland penny mate :thumbsup:
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A bit more info. Well found, it was a long way from home !


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I somehow managed to find one of these William The Lion "short cross and stars" down here in Norfolk but they seem to turn up all over the place :thumbsup:
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Thank you to the-roman for the identification and thank you to Ladybird66 for the link.
I might sleep a bit easier tonight now I know what it is, I like it even more now I know how old it is, what was a man in a tartan skirt doing in Devon?
As I said in the earlier post this farm has links to Hartland Abbey there was also a stone circle like a mint Stonehenge In the top field.
Now I’ve discovered a new trick (adding photos) I’ll dig out some other finds from the same farm.
Thanks again for the information.
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This came from the same farm in Devon, I would love to know what you all think it is, Gary Blackwell had a stab at what it was but I’ll wait to see your ideas before I divulge his thoughts.
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I’m going to have a go - is it a pilgrims badge that has been bent for some reason? :Thinking:
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Well Oxgirl you’re right on the money there, that’s just what Gary said when he saw it, have you any idea on its age?
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Rah7265 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:15 pm Well Oxgirl you’re right on the money there, that’s just what Gary said when he saw it, have you any idea on its age?
I’ll go look in my book and see if I can find a match :thumbsup:
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Okay the pointy hat could only be a Thomas Becket one from what I can see. As it’s a copper alloy one then it’s likely to be mid 15th onwards (from the PAS guide) . After the reformation they went out of fashion so unlikely to date after mid 16th century, so 1450-1550 which is late for a Becket one. I’ll keep looking in case I find anything that contradicts that dating :thumbsup:

EDIT: just double checked with Michael Mitchiner’s ‘Medieval Pilgrim and Secular Badges’ on p70 he talks about the badges, of this type, shifting from a fuller body pose to a smaller bust (like yours) from the end of the 15th century so looks like to 1450-1550 date is a good match from both sources. Great find :thumbsup:
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Thank you Oxgirl, that’s a very detailed response about it’s age.
It was a good thing my son was with me when I found it, it was a horrible wet day and when it came out of the very sticky patch of ground, it was just a blob of mud that I was going to throw in the bag dismissed at rubbish but as it was a slow day number one son decided to poke the mud out of it with a twig. After a few minutes he declared it had a face, I said it was wishful thinking so he took it down to a stream and washed it of and brought it back to to prove he was right and I was wrong and on this occasion I was glad to be wrong.
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