Initials Y.I.A in a locket?

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I found this copper item the other week in ridge and furrow and I wasn't sure what to make of it.

I've just picked it up and popped my finger nail under a lip and it's popped open to reveal the letters Y.I.A. There is some other lettering around the edge, but I can't really make it out. I haven't had much from this partcular field, but i've had some good sized Musket Balls, a Pewter Spoon and a coin that I think is too worn to get an ID.

Does anyone have a clue what Y.I.A might represent?

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You have yourself a 17th century farthing trade token. The initials are from the issuer. Where’s the nearest big town from where it was found? I’ll see if I can find a match :thumbsup:
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That's interesting Cath, I hadn't considered that it could be a token. I'm close to York and Malton isn't far away either.

Thanks very much!
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TerraEnglandia wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:52 am That's interesting Cath, I hadn't considered that it could be a taken. I'm close to York and Malton isn't far away either.

Thanks very much!
I only have volumes 1 and 2 of Williamson’s books on tokens so can’t look up Yorkshire, sorry :cry: . On the bright side though I’ve just found volume 3 in great condition within my max budget and bought it so I can probably tell you next week if no one else has ID’ed it before :thumbsup:
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Bit confused now...How has Andy managed to split open a trade token??? Is it actually two tokens that have been "fused" together by corrosion???
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Pete E wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:39 am Bit confused now...How has Andy managed to split open a trade token???
Not sure - someone put one in a locket? Maybe it was given as a love token?

This is a weird world we live in :lol:

Edit: what you are seeing is just one side of the token with the corroded inprint on the inside of the ‘locket‘ . The other side of the token is still hidden inside the ‘locket’

Second edit: maybe tokens were carried in a small flip box type thing (like stamps were carried in silver letter shaped lockets in the 19th century) ? Maybe it is more than one token from a purse loss and it just appears to be s locket.

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Why is it with so many Finds, there are always more questions than answers??? lol

Andy, I know the find is relatively modern, but might it be worth sending the pics to your FLO for their opinion???

If this is a trade token in a locket, it might be unusual enough for them to have an interest??? It might even be a peculiar local practice perhaps?

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Thanks very much again Cath, fingers crossed that volume 3 might have some info. :thumbsup:

The 'locket' as found looked to be very thin and the last thing that I expected to see inside was what may be a token. I didn't tbink there would be enough space at all.
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Right, I've tried picking away at some of the crud and a couple more letters have appeared. I don't think I'm going to be able to get anything else though.

Cath, perhaps it is just a token that has corroded onto something else, as you mentioned?

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Hurrah, I think I've found it?

Kingston-upon-Hull, Jonas Youle 1666 farthing

https://rarecoinsandtokens.co.uk/index. ... ts_id=3255
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Good research! It's always satisfying when you get a full ID :D
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I would never have found it Cath, if you hadn't told me that it was a Farthing trade token. Thanks again! :thumbsup:
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That was a good bit of combined detective work, the next time I’m in my box of could have been something’s I’m looking for anything that will split into two.
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The book arrived today :Party: It seems this token was for the Cross Keys’ pub in The Market Place. It no longer exists but there is a photo and further info here

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The Cross Keys may have taken its name from the Archbishops of York, who had a hostelry in this area in the 14th Century; their coat of arms consisted of two crossed keys, which was the sign of St Peter.
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Isn't this a fascinating hobby? Some of our metal detecting finds were very personal items to ordinary folk in years gone by, I think that's why I enjoy finding artifacts more than I do finding coins. :thumbsup:
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