A Few Bits That I've Never Thought About ID'ing

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Evening All,

Not sure about everyone else, but I have a shelf where my detecting finds seem to accumulate whilst I decide what I should do with them - coins are easy, I clean them and place them in coin capsules. Relics and buttons on the other hand tend to go on said shelf and (I'll admit) it is collecting a bit of dust. The wife has therefore given me an ultimatum, sort it out or it's all going in the bin! :o :shock: I've therefore been sifting through it this afternoon and have a few finds pictured below that someone may be able to identify as having some age or at least something of interest.

The 3 buttons I'm sure are not that old, but they are all gilded and have lovely emblems, the first seems to be a crown below a face (can't get it in to show in the photos), the second what seems to be a turret (?) and the third an anchor. There's then a small pendent, a copper sea shell and a twisted type metal bracelet maybe? The 2 large items in the middle are I think some kind of metal decoration and the third is a hinge or possibly buckle? Finally an Indian head, a horse head (anyone think it's old?) and a rectangular copper metal disc with the name "J. Ford" inscribed on it.

By far not my best finds, but they still interest me all the same. Can't wait to get back out there when lockdown comes to an end and pile up on some more artefacts, the wife loves it :D I wonder how good that Equinox 600 that I plan on treating myself for Xmas will improve our marriage :lol:

Cheers,

Jamie

PS Let me know if anyone wants better photos of an individual item and I'll happily upload.
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The button with the anchor and twisted rope is a Royal Navy button, they are fairly common.

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Middle right one half of a horse nose band. You can see the hinged bit, possible to have the saddle makers name on it?
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Saffron wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:57 pm The button with the anchor and twisted rope is a Royal Navy button, they are fairly common.

Evan
Thanks Evan :thumbsup:
Doug wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:13 pm
Middle right one half of a horse nose band. You can see the hinged bit, possible to have the saddle makers name on it?
Now that is a good ID - thanks Doug! There is possibly an italic "D" that I can make out, but too far gone. Shame, but I'm chuffed with it all the same :thumbsup:
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ghandou wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:32 pm Thanks Evan :thumbsup: Now that is a good ID - thanks Doug! There is possibly an italic "D" that I can make out, but too far gone. Shame, but I'm chuffed with it all the same :thumbsup:
You are more than welcome.

The name of the saddle maker is normally a local one in most cases with town/village name on it.
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Love mystery finds! Top row next to the 3 buttons are both, I think, dangly things that were often attached to clothes. The shell one is associated with pilgrimages and the round bell one was a fashion in Tudor times although that one could be a more boring button!).

Closer photos of them would confirm :thumbsup: .

The next item along is, I believe, part of a Roman bracelet. I’ll see if I can find a similar one on PAS to confirm that :thumbsup:
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Yup twisted top item is like this one and this one. Roman, nice :clapping:
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A good prompt by ghandou :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Something we should all do perhaps? It will keep us in the spirit of detecting as we can’t discover anything for real

You have re-discovered some nice items, been looking to see if I could find an ID on the livery button in the bottom picture centre, found lots similar but not the actual one, I will keep searching and let you know if I find the right one. Doug and Oxgirl beat me on the ones they ID’d

I myself have spent the last few days going through my finds from way back, have found a few items worthy of recording, I will do separate post on it.

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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:27 am Yup twisted top item is like this one and this one. Roman, nice :clapping:
I think it's more likely a medieval annular brooch. I think I can see a stub at one end which would have been the thin bar where the pin would have been positioned. But it is hard to tell from the images and a closeup would be good :thumbsup:
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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:22 am Love mystery finds! Top row next to the 3 buttons are both, I think, dangly things that were often attached to clothes. The shell one is associated with pilgrimages and the round bell one was a fashion in Tudor times although that one could be a more boring button!).

Closer photos of them would confirm :thumbsup: .
Thanks Oxgirl,

Now you mention in they definitely do resemble items that would be stitched to clothes. The bell one is actually more like twisted flat ribbon, it's been squashed at some point which makes it semi-bell shaped. See what you think (sorry about quality of photos, I was hoping for more natural light this morning but the horizontal rain outside is not helping)!

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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:22 am The next item along is, I believe, part of a Roman bracelet. I’ll see if I can find a similar one on PAS to confirm that :thumbsup:
figgis wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:27 am
Thanks guys, have a lovely day :thumbsup:
I think it's more likely a medieval annular brooch. I think I can see a stub at one end which would have been the thin bar where the pin would have been positioned. But it is hard to tell from the images and a closeup would be good :thumbsup:
Ooh interesting - I'm chuffed with either. Again apologies for the photos, is this one any better?

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Steve_JT wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:40 am A good prompt by ghandou :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Something we should all do perhaps? It will keep us in the spirit of detecting as we can’t discover anything for real

You have re-discovered some nice items, been looking to see if I could find an ID on the livery button in the bottom picture centre, found lots similar but not the actual one, I will keep searching and let you know if I find the right one. Doug and Oxgirl beat me on the ones they ID’d

I myself have spent the last few days going through my finds from way back, have found a few items worthy of recording, I will do separate post on it.

Regards Steve
Thanks Steve,

I couldn't figure out if it's a turret or something along the lines of feathers?
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ghandou wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:00 am I couldn't figure out if it's a turret or something along the lines of feathers?
It's a tower, the two livery buttons will most likely be of families fairly local to you.
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The first livery button is hard to make out but is maybe: https://www.myfamilysilver.com/pages/cr ... name=Ashby
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Easylife wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:06 pm The first livery button is hard to make out but is maybe: https://www.myfamilysilver.com/pages/cr ... name=Ashby
Absolutely spot on! Thanks Easy what a great ID. I'll research the family after work today to see if they're local. Many thanks :thumbsup:
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That still looks like a Roman bracelet to me. The point bit went into the hollowed out but at the other end :thumbsup:
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