Mangled folded Hammy for id.NEW PICS

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This was a surprise. Caked in mud and on constant pasture in amongst reeds (ground is saturated).
Out in the field, I wasn't too sure what it was but glimpsed "something" :Thinking: , so wrapped it, mud and all till I got home.
It's a hammy. And my only inclination for id is it's a groat or half groat.
It has three quarters, but one of those is bent over another.
It may take a small miracle, but.. If any of you guys/gals can ID this poor mangled hammie, I would very much appreciate it :)
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ooooh that ones been through the mangle a couple of times fella....
No doubt someones gonna have an idea on the ID :thumbsup:

pretty cold out in the fields today i expect?
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Don't know if it's the photos or encrustation but it doesn't look like silver, contemporary forgery maybe?
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A nice little find, but it does look a bit odd. Try some spit and foil on it. It may still straighten okay without you being left with quarters! :thumbsup:
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Blackadder43 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:51 pm ooooh that ones been through the mangle a couple of times fella....
No doubt someones gonna have an idea on the ID :thumbsup:

pretty cold out in the fields today i expect?
6° And 5 layers. Including a gift from Sardinia, I wore today.. Its one of those hats with the big woolly ear covers. (Friend in the Italian army.) Actually got too hot at one point. Out for about 6 hrs. Found very little and LOVED every second :D
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Jamesey1981 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:55 pm Don't know if it's the photos or encrustation but it doesn't look like silver, contemporary forgery maybe?
You might be right Jamesey. It seems a bit thick too :problem:
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Easylife wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:03 pm A nice little find, but it does look a bit odd. Try some spit and foil on it. It may still straighten okay without you being left with quarters! :thumbsup:
Tried the spit and foil. Inconclusive as I'm probably being too delicate with it. Really afraid to try straightening it..... :cry:
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Saki wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:10 pm You might be right Jamesey. It seems a bit thick too :problem:
Would actually be pretty cool if it is, I still want to find a forgery.
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Jamesey1981 wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:12 pm Would actually be pretty cool if it is, I still want to find a forgery.
I actually assumed when I first found it that it was folded lead. It's a strange one
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Saki wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:12 pm Tried the spit and foil. Inconclusive as I'm probably being too delicate with it. Really afraid to try straightening it..... :cry:
Just heat to a dull red glow, gently ease, repeat...... :Party:
Two flat bits will look better than a folded one anyway! :lol:
But really best to ID it first! :thumbsup:
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Need to determine what metal it is? It kind of looks lead/alloy? Does it feel weighty for it's size? 🤔
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Easylife wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:54 pm Need to determine what metal it is? It kind of looks lead/alloy? Does it feel weighty for it's size? 🤔
Don't think its a lead alloy. Its weight to the nearest gram is 1 gram. But my scales dont do decimal so it could be nearer 2 :pulling hair out:
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Saki wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:14 pm Don't think its a lead alloy. Its weight to the nearest gram is 1 gram. But my scales dont do decimal so it could be nearer 2 :pulling hair out:
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I wrote a whole response to this but I don’t know what I did with it :pulling hair out:

I have found similar brown coloured hammies - both times in fields that get waterlogged in the winter. Electrolysis sorted them out beautifully :thumbsup:

In your case I’d soak in lemon juice to get rid of some of the worst of the crud then straighten it. Then zap it to get the rest of the brown crud . It’ll come up really well from a cleaning perspective. What have you to loose? I don’t like lemon juice as it’s pretty harsh, or straightening on decent coins but in this case and believe you’ll get a good result.

P.S. nice to find a hammie when you least expect it isn’t it. Well done :thumbsup:
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Oxgirl wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:46 pm I wrote a whole response to this but I don’t know what I did with it :pulling hair out:

I have found similar brown coloured hammies - both times in fields that get waterlogged in the winter. Electrolysis sorted them out beautifully :thumbsup:

In your case I’d soak in lemon juice to get rid of some of the worst of the crud then straighten it. Then zap it to get the rest of the brown crud . It’ll come up really well from a cleaning perspective. What have you to loose? I don’t like lemon juice as it’s pretty harsh, or straightening on decent coins but in this case and believe you’ll get a good result.

P.S. nice to find a hammie when you least expect it isn’t it. Well done :thumbsup:
Nothing to lose :thumbsup: Going at the cleaning and straightening tomorrow.

And your right Cath. A brilliant feeling. Especially when you least expect it.
Had such a fantastic day with very little finds :D
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