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On the coast today for a stolen couple of hrs. Bittterly cold
Two little lead buttons, two buckles, a lead star, a beautifully "green" 50 gram fragment of something
And what I think is a bell fragment. Weighs 40 grams, (initially thought it was silver. And 5mm thick with what looks like a design or writing.
This wee coastal site is turning out to be interesting. History has shown it has been the demise of a substantial amount of ships over the centuries. I would not attempt to M.D. near the water edge as its all rocks and no sand. But some of these items are showing up on the field above.
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Makes you wonder what else may have been washed up over the years there Saki

Shame that star shaped thing didnt have 2 holes in it, cause i would know what that is then lol....
It looks like maybe a badge or some crude form of a badge as it is

Are the rocks huge?
If they are smallish rocks then maybe do like the mudlarkers do and use the tesora range of machines, the early ones with the tiny coils
They seem to be able to get into all sorts of small areas and winkle out any finds trapped in the rocks...

Look forward to more tales from your area :thumbsup:
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Cheers BA.
Big slippy, boulders and rocks with steep bank. It would take forever to do even a small section. But might be worth it on a low spring tide.
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Thats a nice wee buckle!
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The lead buttons are a bit unusual, I see one has a six petalled flower. Good to see some old buckles, I've not found one in ages.
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Easylife wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:49 pm The lead buttons are a bit unusual, I see one has a six petalled flower. Good to see some old buckles, I've not found one in ages.
Nothing wrong with your eyesight Easylife. Yes a six petalled flower. :shock:
Any idea of the age of these lead buttons? :Thinking:
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Saki wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:29 pm Nothing wrong with your eyesight Easylife. Yes a six petalled flower. :shock:
Any idea of the age of these lead buttons? :Thinking:
They are generally post medieval I believe 1550-1650 is often attributed to them, although other records suggest 1500-1800. I think they are likely to be 17th to first half of the 18th century, which would fit with your buckles.

Here’s a similar ish example of your button.

Nice permission - bet there’s lots more there :D
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Saki wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:29 pm Nothing wrong with your eyesight Easylife. Yes a six petalled flower. :shock:
Any idea of the age of these lead buttons? :Thinking:
About 17th century for the flower one, the other looks home made?
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Forgot to add - your bell fragment might be a shallow bowl or a mug or other eating type item? Looks like pewter so could be :thumbsup:
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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:45 pm ...

Here’s a similar ish example of your button.

Nice permission - bet there’s lots more there :D
Thanks for that Cath. Permission is if nothing else, magical to be on. Lots of it is peat, so everything is deep. Gold to be found yet :thumbsup:
Easylife wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:46 pm ...
About 17th century for the flower one, the other looks home made?
Yes it does. Thanks Easylife
Oxgirl wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:47 pm Forgot to add - your bell fragment might be a shallow bowl or a mug or other eating type item? Looks like pewter so could be :thumbsup:
It's kinda heavy. Would pewter be heavy? This little fragment is 40 grams. A ship's shallow bowl or mug could make sense
Do you think that is a design I see or maybe should have gone to specsavers :roll:
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Saki wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:55 pm
It's kinda heavy. Would pewter be heavy? This little fragment is 40 grams. A ship's shallow bowl or mug could make sense
Do you think that is a design I see or maybe should have gone to specsavers :roll:
Pewter is quite heavy as it’s a lead tin alloy. Could you take some more photos tomorrow in sunlight? I think there may be a design on it but artificial lighting doesn’t help to pick up detail very well. Do some nice close ups?

Really interested to see if there is anything discernible on it :D
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Saki wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:55 pm Do you think that is a design I see or maybe should have gone to specsavers. :roll:
It looks like a design to me. I think it's upside down though?
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the lead star item is it a mount or perhaps a brooch, or a badge as Blackadder said, looks like there's a couple of attachment points?

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Steve_JT wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:40 pm the lead star item is it a mount or perhaps a brooch, or a badge as Blackadder said, looks like there's a couple of attachment points?

Regards Steve
Thanks Steve. Was thinking the same. A mount perhaps :thumbsup:
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