very old or made yesterday - couple more photos.... (Breakthrough Made?)

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Morning All,
Beautiful morning here! I found this in Herts... its one of those things that, as i have not seen one before, could be quite old as it is quite wonky and crude, but could equally be a bit of farm machinery! Fingers crossed for the former! Bronze/copper alloy - 3cm long; It's "tapered" and could have a ferrous bit on the end I don't have a magnet to hand....
Anyway any knowledge would be much appreciated!
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Old :Party: Looks like a purse bar top - post medieval. You need to find the rest of it now :D
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Looks to be Copper-Alloy and I`d say it is "old". Probably medieval too. I`m not sure what it`s been as that shape could fit lots of things ,but maybe someone else has found a similar one and can give a more definite ID for you.
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Was thinking along the lines of a BA toggle?

I have searched PAS data base and most seem to be round but have the incised transverse lines to help the the material grip the toggle.

PAS link here :https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/71888
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Apologies, no it’s a chaffing dish loop attachment https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/938522
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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:42 am Old :Party: Looks like a purse bar top - post medieval. You need to find the rest of it now :D
I was thinking along the same lines, also a part of a Chafing dish handle possibly https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... 81351).jpg
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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:52 am Apologies, no it’s a chaffing dish loop attachment https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/938522
:lol: you got that in whilst i was quoting your other post lol looks like we both agree :D
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Thanks everyone! Loop attachment it is then!
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.... though there is nothing very similar on the PAS though... the lugs there are all quite a definite design...
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Alexander don’t think we’re necessarily right here. The chaffing dish lugs are rarely this long. It feels like the stem went into something with the engraved lines having a purpose. Maybe someone else will have a better theory.

Whatever it’s not modern machinery tat anyway :D
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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:54 am Alexander don’t think we’re necessarily right here. The chaffing dish lugs are rarely this long. It feels like the stem went into something with the engraved lines having a purpose. Maybe someone else will have a better theory.

Whatever it’s not modern machinery tat anyway :D
Thanks Cath.... am i allowed another photo or two..? I think I've eked out a bit more detail... its annoying i don't have a magnet as it really looks like it might have had something ferrous sticking out of it at one time... might it be a pommel?
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HolzHammer wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:36 pm am i allowed another photo or two..?
Six per post I believe. :thumbsup:
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HolzHammer wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:36 pm Thanks Cath.... am i allowed another photo or two..? I think I've eked out a bit more detail... its annoying i don't have a magnet as it really looks like it might have had something ferrous sticking out of it at one time... might it be a pommel?
There are no daily limits on this forum :thumbsup:

Easylife is absolutely correct that each post is physically limited to six (in the software) but even then multiple posts are allowed :Party: So fill your boots.
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ok couple more photos - any help much appreciated! The first one shows a bit of an interesting side as it looks to be symmetrically "swirly" on purpose... and i have toothpickd the end to reveal a definite aperture... still unsure if it was for something ferrous... over to you .... !
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saw this by accident while researching a wee key I found... might it be a breakthrough in ID-ing the object I posted here?
Hope all well!
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