"linear" tokens are like buses.

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Lead "linear" tokens are like buses, you wait ages then 2 come along one after the other.

Until the other day I had never found one then this one turned up

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Out today on a "different" permission, what until recent was an old orchard adjacent to the paddock where I found the first lead linear token and although now owned by different people they almost certainly would have been owned by the same person in the past.

It was rather cold (British understatement) and I was wondering if it was worth it, as only a few bits of foil and 3 small .22 slugs which were a pain in the perverbial to find when dug. Only "find" is what in the long forgotten past might well have been a farthing by its size but is now just a blank disc in very poor condition.

So consider packing up but decide I might as well give it bit longer and am very pleased I did as I get another lead linear token. This one larger then the other at about 25mm. In the previous post I said that on the club FB page somebody had said "Tokens usually were the same size as farthings and half pennies in circulation at the time", my first one was roughly the size of a farthing while this is a good match for the size of a half penny.

The patterns on the two are very different, and while the first one was fairly thick and heavy this one is much thinner and lighter. So although it seems a coincidence the 2 being found fairly close together (200yds??), I would not claim they are definitely related.

This one was also a first for me as all my previous lead tokens have had a blank reverse, while this one has a large "T" on the reverse.
It could well be a coincidence but in the 17th century the given name of the main landowner in the village was Thomas.

Evan
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Nice finds Evan, I do like a lead token, much maligned by some people but they are always nice to find :thumbsup:
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That'll do very nicely, Evan :thumbsup:

I partially agree with Phil in that lead tokens are indeed lovely things. The bit I can't associate with it that "they are always nice to find" on account of the fact I've never had the privilege :(

One day... :D
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Its funny how that goes of not finding something, and then 2 in a row :shock:
Great to see the activety of people going out and finding some nice items again though, warms the cockles :ugeek: ...
Seems i need to pull my fingers out and go brave the outside world :clapping:
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Never mind the "pulling yer finger out" business - shed the weight of all them jelly beans and you might have half a chance of getting out the front door :lol:

Seriously though, chap - get yersen oot there and show us how it's done :thumbsup:
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Blackadder43 wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:38 pm Its funny how that goes of not finding something, and then 2 in a row :shock:
Great to see the activety of people going out and finding some nice items again though, warms the cockles :ugeek: ...
Seems i need to pull my fingers out and go brave the outside world :clapping:
I find that often there is no logic to finds, although I have had the "cross and pellets" design lead tokens before in all the years I have been detecting I have never found a linear design lead token - in fact I can not even remember having seen one on any organised dig I have been on. Then to get 2 in such a short time seems very strange, if they had been the same design and very close together you could imagine them having been dropped at the same time but that is certainly not the case here.

Where I found the first one is a small paddock that I have had permission for about 3 years and detected a fair few times as its only a couple of hundred yards from my house, but I have never had any indication of anything like this previously. (the people in the 2 houses that overlook it think that I must be finding a lot of good stuff as I keep going back to the same small padock - which is certainly not the case its just very handy and gets me out when I just fancy a very short session).

Trust me BA how the weather was yesterday it was more then my cockles that needed warming.

I agree with your final comment ... you need to pull your fingers out and get out there detecting.

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alloverover wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:53 am Nice finds Evan, I do like a lead token, much maligned by some people but they are always nice to find :thumbsup:
figgis wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:58 pm That'll do very nicely, Evan :thumbsup:

I partially agree with Phil in that lead tokens are indeed lovely things. The bit I can't associate with it that "they are always nice to find" on account of the fact I've never had the privilege :(

One day... :D

Thanks chaps. I admit I do like them, but any "first" is always a bit special even when fairly mundane. In this case they provided 2 firsts, 1) first linear design token, 2) first lead token with any thing on the reverse - but how I wish that "T" was a "TW" as that would have tied it in to the person that own most of the village way back.

The age of them makes them nice and the fact that they are local is another bouns, but the big downside is that they are near impossible to date and what annoys me although I know they are local there is no way you can find out who issued them - hence really liking the more recent tokens that have the issuers details.

If nothing else due to the post on FB I found out that they normally match the size of farthings and halfpennies, which both of these did.

Figgis, put that glass of gin down and get out there detecting and you will find one.

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Saffron wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:13 pm Figgis, put that glass of gin down
I can't quite get a handle on that concept.
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