Coin, token or scrap silver

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I found this little un over the weekend on a permission that’s normally fairly productive, but for the last 3 visits only rubbish has come up.
What do you think this is? It’s sliver. Looks like it could have been mounted at some point. I’m guessing it could have been on a necklace or charm bracelet?
Thanks for looking.
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Dont know shaggy, a lot of them seem to be white metal by doing a quick search .
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A religious medallion, likely not very old.
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Well, he looks as though he has a Roman nose, and is shouting, but is wearing a sailors type hat and possibly a naval tunic of somesort...
Who nose though (see what i did there) :lol:
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Does the back read:
"metro folit di milan"
If so that leads me to "Milan Metro" for some reason
Maybe that explains the nose on the guy :thumbsup:
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Blackadder43 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:02 pm Well, he looks as though he has a Roman nose, and is shouting, but is wearing a sailors type hat and possibly a naval tunic of somesort...
Who nose though (see what i did there) :lol:
Good point, just why would a cardinal be wearing a sailor outfit? :Thinking: :D
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Metropolit(ana) di Milan = City of Milan.
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Easylife wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:25 pm Metropolit(ana) di Milan = City of Milan.
Ahh mistook the p for an f....I was close though, although having "milan" actually written there was a bit of a giveaway :lol:
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Easylife wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:25 pm Metropolit(ana) di Milan = City of Milan.
A nice find.

The image is of Milan Cathedral.

The person is Carlo Borromeo (1539-1584), who was Archbishop of Milan from 1564 to his death in 1584.

He is honored as a saint by the Catholic Church, with a feast day on November 4.

At a quick glance he looks an interesting and influential man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Borromeo and the painting of him matches the image on this item.

Assuming the item is contemporary, which I suspect it is, then it has age to it (at least 437 years)

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Saffron wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:14 pm
Assuming the item is contemporary, which I suspect it is, then it has age to it (at least 437 years)

Evan
Doesn't that mean he's going to lose it for 2 years while it goes into the treasure process ;)
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Brilliant, thanks all and expecially to Saffron for clarifying that BA43s Popeye is in fact an Archbishop :thumbsup:
I feel that this item is more a tourist piece, rather than something 400+ years old, it just doesn't have that vibe! I'll do a bit of digging now to what I can find - I will send photos to the FLO, just in case (but expect a snigger or two).
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DaveP wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:08 am Doesn't that mean he's going to lose it for 2 years while it goes into the treasure process ;)
I hope not - I'm expecting it to be a modern tourist piece - but you never know.
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I've seen very similar on FleaBay - going for £4.99 - seem to be early C20 - so no treasure process but interesting nonetheless - I have learned alittle about Saint Carlo Borromeo today :thumbsup:
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shaggybfc wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:19 am I hope not - I'm expecting it to be a modern tourist piece - but you never know.

Well if it is contemporary it falls under the Treasure Act.
"Any individual (non-coin) find that is at least 300 years old and contains at least 10% gold or silver."

As it is silver I suspect it could be contemporary, I would imagine a modern tourist piece to be of cheaper metal. I am certainly no expert but to me it has a look of a bit of age rather than C20.

At the very least it is one for the FLO.

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Not to hijack the post - oops, but if this is contemporary to the period the item doesn't have to disappear into the treasure process for ages. It could all be done by email and never have to leave shaggy's grubby little paws (sorry shaggy :D ) They could even say "if it's modern we don't want it. If it's period we can see the pictures and decide if we want it or not" After all, the ID is not really in question and it has two possible dates.
Just a thought.
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