Trade weight date?

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The only markings on this copper alloy 1oz trade weight are the two crowns and two swords. Any idea of the date range it may have?
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If you haven't checked already there's a few here:
http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/weights.htm
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Normally the crown gives you a clue as there is usually a letter under it but I believe there is also something about the position of the marks but I can't find anything at the moment. With 2 crowns and swords it may have been checked and re-issued

edit: Have a look through this document

http://www.herberthistory.co.uk/userdat ... _isles.pdf
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Easylife wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:48 pm The only markings on this copper alloy 1oz trade weight are the two crowns and two swords. Any idea of the date range it may have?
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Am thinking George I ????
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DaveP wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:00 pm If you haven't checked already there's a few here:
http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/weights.htm
Thanks, already looked. I've not seen this type of crown on any other weights yet.
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TheFenTiger wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 1:40 pm Normally the crown gives you a clue as there is usually a letter under it but I believe there is also something about the position of the marks but I can't find anything at the moment. With 2 crowns and swords it may have been checked and re-issued

edit: Have a look through this document

http://www.herberthistory.co.uk/userdat ... _isles.pdf
I already had that document, but it was not much help with this one. I feel that the style of the crown is the key factor but not seen similar elsewhere yet. It does appear to have been re-verified by the duplicate marks.
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Pete E wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:44 pm Am thinking George I ???
By the style of the crown I'm thinking maybe older?
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Easylife wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:49 pm By the style of the crown I'm thinking maybe older?
I am no expert so you are possibly right...

So which King are you leaning towards? When did this style of weight start being used?
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Pete E wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:52 pm I am no expert so you are possibly right...
I'm no expert either but it does seem to be a little different from the usual with regards to the crown style. It has a great deep green patina and good clear stamps too, but is it really in too good a condition to have any proper decent age?
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Pete E wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:52 pm So which King are you leaning towards? When did this style of weight start being used?
Some more research needed I think?
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I think this style goes back as far as Elizabeth I?

Most of the crowns seem closed so it is an interesting one. Could it be a contemporary forgery?
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Intersting find, nice, like it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

the sword of St. Paul for the City of London Guildhall ?
some info here on markings
http://www.herberthistory.co.uk/userdat ... _isles.pdf

http://home.clara.net/brianp/collectw.html

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Steve_JT wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:47 am Intersting find, nice, like it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

the sword of St. Paul for the City of London Guildhall ?
some info here on markings
http://www.herberthistory.co.uk/userdat ... _isles.pdf

http://home.clara.net/brianp/collectw.html

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I looked at those sites too Steve. But I just want to see another weight with this same crown now. :D :thumbsup:
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Unlikely I suppose, but I wonder if it could be a foreign produced weight?
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Pete E wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:52 am Unlikely I suppose, but I wonder if it could be a foreign produced weight?
I did think that as a possibility but it has the swords on it which are official marks.
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