Possible Seal Matrix and Buckle Fragment?

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Well, Ever the optimist I thought it might have been a seal matrix when I first saw it poking out of the soil :roll:
Sadly on removal and closer examination, that first flush of optimism soon wained and I was left with the item below.

The base seems have contained a ferrous screw for attaching it to something, while the narrow end has the remains of a ferrous "nut" on it. The object seems to be copper or copper/alloy and lacks the weightiness of bronze..

I am leaning towards some sort of furniture fitting or handle??? Age wise, I don't think it's particularly old, maybe late 1800's give or take?
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The second item id like an opinion on is what I suspect a buckle fragment?I am not sure if there is enough for people to estimate an age, but I would appreciate it if possible..I am thinking 1700's ?

This would have been a cracking buckling in its entirety, but as usual, the field gods are teasing me with just a fragment! lol
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First is part of a draw handle.
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Easylife wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:23 pm First is part of a draw handle.
That's sort of what I thought...Would that "nut" have held a wooden part over the square shank? My only "concern" is that it seems too long for a typical handle? I just can't picture it in my mind's eye, if that makes sense...
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Pete E wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:30 pm That's sort of what I thought...Would that "nut" have held a wooden part over the square shank? My only "concern" is that it seems too long for a typical handle? I just can't picture it in my mind's eye, if that makes sense...
some sort of hook/peg for hanging coats, or the like, surely.....
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I've dug a few of those and think there is one in my scrap with the knob still attached.
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Easylife wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:08 pm I've dug a few of those and think there is one in my scrap with the knob still attached.
I have had similar before, but not quite so long...

It came from a bit of water meadow that is well away any houses and equally distant from any public roads, so it always makes me wonder just how it got there lol same with some of the other relatively modern junk that crops up in the more remote locations on the farm....
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How long is it, Pete?
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figgis wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:51 pm How long is it, Pete?
Those black squares are 1cm, so it's about 8cm...
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8 cm seems a bit too long for a drawer handle pull,I only say that because why would it need to be 8cm long sticking out on a drawer when most are but 2- 3 cm long.
Rightly or wrongly ,I`m going for a Pipe Tamper less its " loop " for the index finger to go through ,on the end where the "ferrous" bit is..the middle bit would be held between the middle finger and thumb. Something along this line.
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Bors wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 5:31 pm 8 cm seems a bit too long for a drawer handle pull,I only say that because why would it need to be 8cm long when most are but 2- 3 cm long.
I`m going for a Pipe Tamper.
im sure its a coat/hat hanger...! The ferrous bit Pete was talking about is to screw it into the wall!!!! I think it is missing a small 90degree angled bit at the end or a little ball...
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Myself I think its too Scrawny to be a coat hanger
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I can see the idea of the pipe tamper, but the base is too thin, plus that base has definately been mounted on something, and the other end definately has had a wood or maybe porcelain "fitting" over it to act as a handle.. I imagine it sort of like on an old loo handle, only lacking the elbow...

I guess it's another one of those mystery objects that look familiar but we can't quite pin down....
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The draw handle one's are usually about 5cm long.
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Pete E wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:06 pm I can see the idea of the pipe tamper, but the base is too thin, plus that base has definately been mounted on something, and the other end definately has had a wood or maybe porcelain "fitting" over it to act as a handle.. I imagine it sort of like on an old loo handle, only lacking the elbow...

I guess it's another one of those mystery objects that look familiar but we can't quite pin down....
Yeah ,another to File & Box it under " mystery Item " . :D
Actually I think I have one of these in my finds box`es somewhere . I`ll try and look to see if I can find it. It just rings a bell with me .

PS.......... nah :thumbdown: I`ve looked but couldn`t find one, I just thought I had seen one in one of my finds boxes at some point but looks like I was imagining it. :lol:
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