Gold brooch for ID.

Bors · Tue May 11, 2021 7:00 pm

shaggybfc wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:57 pm Be careful some sneaky fairy doesn’t swap it for 50p
Beautiful

Exquisite !

Reiver · Tue May 11, 2021 7:04 pm

Easylife wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:56 pm It's kind of similar to these.
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/930071
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/49607

Thanks for those Easy,
I think it may have originally been a brooch, later made into a pendant ,looking at the back, I could be wrong.
Are you thinking early Medieval?
Cheers,

Reiver.

Dave The Slave · Tue May 11, 2021 7:07 pm

Easylife wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:56 pm It's kind of similar to these.
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/930071
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/49607

Think the identifiers, will be the fittings on the reverse.
First thoughts were Medieval for some unknown reason and hoping it is but regardless, still a stunning piece.
Cheers,

Dave.

Tue May 11, 2021 7:23 pm

Not surprised you are still shaking. An absolutely beautiful find and in stunning condition. Congratulations

Reiver · Tue May 11, 2021 7:32 pm

Oxgirl wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:23 pm Not surprised you are still shaking. An absolutely beautiful find and in stunning condition. Congratulations

Thanks Oxgirl.

My fingers are hitting wrong letters, typing this with the shakes.
Yes, it is beautiful, can't stop looking at it,
I thought the Iron age harness mount was the find of a lifetime, but I think this tops it.
Just wish I could nail it down to a date or period.
Cheers,
Reiver.

Tue May 11, 2021 8:44 pm

Reiver wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:32 pm Thanks Oxgirl.
My fingers are hitting wrong letters, typing this with the shakes.
Yes, it is beautiful, can't stop looking at it,
I thought the Iron age harness mount was the find of a lifetime, but I think this tops it.
Just wish I could nail it down to a date or period.
Cheers,
Reiver.

I think you can confidently say it’s early medieval. The FLO will be falling over her/ his self to confirm a date for you I would have thought

Reiver · Tue May 11, 2021 9:04 pm

Oxgirl wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:44 pm I think you can confidently say it’s early medieval. The FLO will be falling over her/ his self to confirm a date for you I would have thought

Thanks Oxgirl,
Will be contacting FLO tomorrow, will keep you updated as and when I hear back.
Making the most of it before it goes off to the Treasure process, as I'm sure it will.
Thanks again,

Reiver.

I-Rutus · Tue May 11, 2021 9:10 pm

stunning find, enjoy the moment.

DaveP · Tue May 11, 2021 9:36 pm

Reiver wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:04 pm
Making the most of it before it goes off to the Treasure process, as I'm sure it will.

I think it will be a brave FLO that says it's not treasure. Anyway, you have to report it to the coroner as you think it might be treasure. Still, as long as you notify the coroner within 14 days you can hang on to it until the coroner tells you where to take it. You might even be able to spin it out for a month so plenty of time to sit and admire its beauty. But you mustn't lose it!
I know you know the above but the act says you don't have to part with it just yet.

Just wondering when you'll be back in that field - sunrise is just after 5

Easylife · Tue May 11, 2021 9:58 pm

DaveP wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:36 pm Just wondering when you'll be back in that field - sunrise is just after 5

Maybe just part of a hoard but nobody wants all that digging before breakfast!

Reiver · Tue May 11, 2021 10:01 pm

DaveP wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 9:36 pm I think it will be a brave FLO that says it's not treasure. Anyway, you have to report it to the coroner as you think it might be treasure. Still, as long as you notify the coroner within 14 days you can hang on to it until the coroner tells you where to take it. You might even be able to spin it out for a month so plenty of time to sit and admire its beauty. But you mustn't lose it!
I know you know the above but the act says you don't have to part with it just yet.

Just wondering when you'll be back in that field - sunrise is just after 5

Thanks Dave,
So that's back in the field by 5.05am then,

Have another piece going through Treasure at the moment, a small silver Medieval clothes fastener which is at the corners court in early June.
But hope to have this one for a week or so before it goes off.

Cheers,
Reiver.

shaggybfc · Tue May 11, 2021 10:40 pm

It could be a good time to get a few independent valuations on the piece

The TVC are renowned for returning a modest valuation.

Reiver · Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 am

shaggybfc wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:40 pm It could be a good time to get a few independent valuations on the piece The TVC are renowned for returning a modest valuation.

Thanks for that Shaggy, that could be a good call, never even crossed my mind.
Cheers,
Reiver.

Emily · Wed May 12, 2021 8:55 am

shaggybfc wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 10:40 pm It could be a good time to get a few independent valuations on the piece The TVC are renowned for returning a modest valuation.

That is a great idea. Where would you take it though?? Surely not a regular jewellers as they’d likely tell you an approximation of it’s face current value, but won’t be trained to account for its history, which could effect its value....??

DaveP · Wed May 12, 2021 9:33 am

Emily wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:55 am That is a great idea. Where would you take it though??

The examples Easylife put up are relatively old for market values and this piece, if the same period, is a planet apart in terms of condition. But both pieces were acquired by the BM so they'll have records of what they paid. In fact it says the BM stepped in when Worcester museum pulled out of an acquisition.

He has a bit of a chequered history but you could approach Charles Hanson (https://hansonsauctioneers.co.uk/) as they deal with a lot of artefacts and detecting finds. They recently sold the Celtic horse broach. You would probably have to pay for a valuation as they'll guess you won't be able to sell it. Just a thought.