New app - what do you think?

[Pete E]

I am not really in favour of this sort app, but I think there is scope for PAS to develop an app to encourage and assist in recording....I envisage an app that would allow data to recorded and field photos to be submitted...These would not replace proper scaled photos, but perhaps enable FLO's to "triage" which finds the want to record and which they don't...

[Oxgirl]

Looks like I’m not on my own then!

An official triage system sounds like a good idea though Pete

[TheFenTiger]

It is a money making scheme, pure and simple. I am sure there will be in-app ads on the free versions as there normally are. I would really want to be sure that if I recorded finds the find spot would be secure, but I still don't really see why you would need to add it unless they are looking for hotspots to approach landowners for. Imagine you have your own permission and you are loading up your most productive site information to then find your landowner approached by the group offering money and you get kicked off? And if it gets hacked?

Not sure how the permissions will be policed and if there are a group of you, why would you all subscribe to it? You could find mini rallies happening where 5 or 6 people go on the same site but only 1 has the app. Or subcontract rallies where someone invites 20 people and charge them £20 each! And if you are smart enough, you download all of the sites so if you get kicked off the app you can still have that info. If the landowner challenges you you just say you are on the app.

If I was a landowner I wouldn't want to be part of it as you have no idea who these people are and if they cause damage, what happens then?

[jcmaloney]

I registered and looked.

Sadly, about 10 minutes later, I got an email that said:

Hi jcmaloney,

We are here to inform you that your account on Just Detect was deleted and all your data were erased.

Best regards,
Just Detect team.

Wonder why that was?

Had to delete the app, reload and re-register as A.N.Other.

[figgis]

Any reaction like that when it comes to having been criticised tells you that either the product is weak and cannot stand up to scrutiny, or they have something they don't want you to see. In this case I suspect both.

[Pete E]

I registered and looked.

Sadly, about 10 minutes later, I got an email that said:

Hi jcmaloney,

We are here to inform you that your account on Just Detect was deleted and all your data were erased.

Best regards,
Just Detect team.

Am I the only one who finds that a little bit sinister?

Either they are maintaining a "black list" of people they don't like, or they are getting people as they sign up to the App???

[jcmaloney]

No more than I expected to be fair.

The problem is that it is very easy to go "dark" online and build a "new person" digitally.

They are trumpeting their success on various platforms that "hundreds of finds have been recorded".

No they haven`t been recorded in a meaningful, academic way they have been photographed and tagged. No weight, no scale and not even differing angles.

Having said that the idea of making recording or triaging finds is good but there are better ways to do that and they involve people not "tech".

[Oxgirl]

Am I the only one who finds that a little bit sinister?

Either they are maintaining a "black list" of people they don't like, or they are getting people as they sign up to the App???

There’s a black list.

I know cause I’m on it too . I doubt I’d have got that far with my real name as I’m blocked from all their social media because I supposedly talked about their app to Michael Lewis at PAS. As I knew very little about it I don’t see how I could have said anything I shouldn’t but it seems I’ve been put in the naughty corner, never to be allowed out again.
Anyway it appears some of the people involved are really rather silly and should grow up. (Edit: only one of the people involved actually, the other two are fine with me).

For the record I also registered under another name though, had a gander at the Detectival finds and was disappointed to see there were only 23 added by Monday. I thought the novelty factor would have got more than that! I can report that deleting it again was easy

[Pete E]

There’s a black list.

I know cause I’m on it too . I doubt I’d have got that far with my real name as I’m blocked from all their social media because I supposedly talked about their app to Michael Lewis at PAS. As I knew very little about it I don’t see how I could have said anything I shouldn’t but it appears I’ve been put in the naughty corner, never to be allowed out again.
Anyway it appears some of the people involved are really rather silly and should grow up.

I have a feeling you quite like being in the naughty corner!

[Oxgirl]

I have a feeling you quite like being in the naughty corner!

[Steve RC]

Yes a very concerning development and yet another attempt to commodify archaeological small finds and line pockets of a few in the process.

Naturally they will try and give it a venear of respectability ,but i am sure the PAS and others are concerned as well. There is more will come out in the coming months to alarm many parties as the plans are scrutinised in greater detail.

What the future will bring for the pay to search and commercial rally runners remains to be seen. Their activities have not gone unoticed by those with the powers to sort it.

For me this is another wide berth initiative.

[jcmaloney]

Detector Network (same folk) have now blocked me on Twitter..............


Well one of me.

[Steve RC]

They obviously dont want any scrutiny of what they are up to.

No doubt they feel they have it perfect in every way so no need to be concerned about what other people say.

[jcmaloney]

They are "pitching it" as XXX hundred finds recorded.

No they aren`t "recorded" they have been photographed and uploaded to a glorified Instagram.

Still lurking and watching.... got lots of "followers" as well.....

[Mucky]

No way. Don't need an app thank you!