Contemporary George III shilling forgery, a Liverpool cheek piece and a phosphate bag seal

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Good afternoon peeps

Dumped the dogs with the husband and stole a quick hour on a new pasture field that’s just been cut. Lovely field, nice and flat with little iron and no trash.

As it’s pasture the finds can be quite deep I found and many sounded quite irony as a result, so I dug everything except the screaming iron signals and only had three bits of iron - 2 buckles and a washer. Weirdly small objects sound much bigger on this field too.

Anyways the hour resulted in 6 copper horse tack related buckles, one coin, 2 bag seals, a small lead token snd another unknown thing I found in 3 parts, a few other bits and pieces. It was too darn hot to go on so I trundled home early. Might nip over there again tomorrow though, before the cows are let in - this field is fun :D

So help please - this coin is tin or a tin alloy and I think a George III - a contemporary forgery of a silver coin or something else?
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2 bag seals and a lead token - anyone know what the one with the star/ 900 was for?
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And a mystery item found in 3 parts. Assuming horse related?
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On the bag seals, have a look at
http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2814

Some good examples here :thumbsup:
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Yeah on your mystery item, I’d go for a terrett of some sort.
Looks like the field holds great potential :thumbsup:
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Not bad for 90 minutes of digging, specially in this sun too
I agree on the mystery item being horse related
I expect Saffron (Evan) would know on that one :thumbsup:
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I think that those star bag seals are reckoned to be something to do with halal, I found some ages ago.
The other is part of a Pelham type bit. :thumbsup:
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Bridle part for the mystery item
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I found just the slotted bar of one the other day so now know what it was. :thumbsup:
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Ohhh I go out for an hour and most mysteries were solved. Thank you all :thumbsup:

Right now for the funny coin. Any ideas?
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Nice haul Cath, looks like an interesting field...

Re the "coin" I did wonder if it was a gambling token, but I can't see anything similar. I would therefore guess it's a forgery as you say, and I would says it looks to be a copy of a shilling? Something like Spinks 3745 or 3747?
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I reckon that its a shilling forgery, there were loads of em' about. :thumbsup:
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shaggybfc wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:02 pm On the bag seals, have a look at
http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2814

Some good examples here :thumbsup:
Thanks shaggy - a phosphate bag seal then :thumbsup: excellent

Stealing the blurb from the link you posted
Probably phosphate bag seals - see other star of David seals. Particularly - Company No: 40783; Leeds Phosphate Works Ltd. Incorporated on 12/2/1894 – “To carry on the business of Agricultural Chemists and Artificial Manure Manufacturers and Dealers in Artificial manures of all kinds.” Dissolved at Extra Ordinary General Meeting at Newcastle-upon-Tyne 30/9/1921. From National Archives, Kew.
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Easylife wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:49 pm I reckon that its a shilling forgery, there were loads of em' about. :thumbsup:
Pete E wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:33 pm

Re the "coin" I did wonder if it was a gambling token, but I can't see anything similar. I would therefore guess it's a forgery as you say, and I would says it looks to be a copy of a shilling? Something like Spinks 3745 or 3747?
Excellent, thank you both :D
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