Recovery speed

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We all know (or should know) that the Recovery Speed setting alters how quickly the detector responds from detecting one target to detecting another target.

Reading from the Equinox manual, which everybody has studied in detail and reread several times ..... or maybe not :o :o .... it says
"By increasing the Recovery Speed, the detector is able to better differentiate between multiple targets that are close together. This assists in high-trash areas with finding smaller desired targets amongst larger iron trash."
It then goes on to say
"While using a higher target Recovery Speed may increase the ability of the detector to find difficult targets, it also results in reduced Target ID accuracy and less detection depth"

I expect most experienced detectorists would know the gist of the above.
But how many of us actually change recover speed during a session?.
As an example we all get deep "iffy" targets, but I doubt if any of us change the recovery speed to a slower setting in an effort to get a better TID (or sound) and use the extra depth the slower recovery speed produces. I certainly never have.
Very occasionally I have increased the recovery speed where I know there is a lot of trash, and a very few times slowed it when trying to get the last inch of depth on an area that has been done to death. But these are very rare cases, and certainly not mid session.

What setting do most users use, and how often and why do you change from that?.

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A good subject, I guess many less savy folk just go with factory settings, which can be okay.
With any new detector I do various tests to better understand the degree and effects of settings. With the Nox and 15" coil I usually run recovery speed at 4 or 5 depending on how much iron is about. I find that lowering or raising recovery speed too much can have a detrimental effect in other ways. Recovery speed is about the only setting that I occasionally alter though not really a game changer with my set up on my land, but can be with other detectors and other conditions. :thumbsup:
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I have really changed my approach to Recovery Speed since reading the following blog on the Joan Allen site:

https://joanallen.co.uk/blog/recovery-rate-equinox/

It's also worth watching the associated video.

Many of us will reduce the sensitivity on the Nox to deal with noisy ground....I am now experimenting in increasing the recovery speed instead, or at least first...

Both approaches will result in a loss of depth to a degree, but at least if you increase the Recovery Speed you gain processing speed which will increase target separation.....
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Saffron wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 2:40 am
But how many of us actually change recover speed during a session?.
Great question :thumbsup: In my case the answer would be "never" as I make all the decisions on any required changes on settings in advance of switching the detector on, according to land and conditions.
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I tend to lower the recovery speed if there are very few targets in the ground, it can be the case with ridge and furrow on some of my permisions. The signals do tend to become quite elongated so to speak and they can sound a little odd too.

If I'm on rocky/stoney land, then I'll often use the higher recovery speeds, I really don't want to be digging deep in rocky ground. :Thinking:
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TerraBritannia wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:55 pm If I'm on rocky/stoney land, then I'll often use the higher recovery speeds, I really don't want to be digging deep in rocky ground. :Thinking:
Yep, stoney ground is a right PITA to dig regardless of whatever the target is! :thumbsup:
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Just a question for the Equinox users - with the Deus on say the HOT programme reactivity is set at 3. If it is lowered to 2.5 it makes a big difference to the way the machine performs. All the other settings are unaffected. If you reduce reactivity again to 2 the machine adjusts some other programme settings automatically. So my question is - does that happen with Minelab machines too?

Might be worth checking the other settings if you do mess with reactivity, just so know any unintended consequences :D
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Not that I've seen Cath. I set everything manually, Recovery Speed, Iron Bias, Frequency etc and those other settings don't change.
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Oxgirl wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 8:52 pm Might be worth checking the other settings if you do mess with reactivity, just so know any unintended consequences :D
With the Nox you make the settings, not the machine compensating for any adjustments you make. It's odd how Deus 2.5 reactivity makes such a difference, maybe just a funny calibration? The Deus just peed me off for many reasons so it had to go, but wish that the Nox had a clock! :lol:
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Easylife wrote: Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:36 pm wish that the Nox had a clock! :lol:
Funnily enough I was only thinking that the other day...I am hearing lots of rumours of a major update being on the way for the Nox...Some says its a completely new model and some say it's a major software release...Which ever, I am hoping ML will give us a clock and possibly a GPS on the next version...
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You have to view changing any settings on our computerised machines as having an impact on how it changes other settings too
In its most basic form, if you change a setting that makes the machine add an extra function, then it will have a knock on affect to how your machine performs in the time taken to send, receive and process the actuall signals coming back

These instructions the machine has in a set program, all adds nano-seconds to it being able to complete all of these commands in the nano-second your machine is over a tiny but desired target.
Hence the minelab mantra of slow and low, or is it low and slow....sweet chariotttttt :lol:

Some minelab settings over the years have caused confusion with users
Nothing more though than the "recovery deep on/off" setting
I actually got myself banned from the minelab owners forum back in the day, when i dared to challenge one of the clique and explain to him that there is a trade off when you have that setting "on"
He disagreed and berated me a bit until i linked them all to one of the mineleb engineers who gave the explanation that i had tried to give them
With a "recovery deep" setting switched to on, then it had a trade off where it wouldn't pick up very shallow desired targets

As with all our machines, there is often a trade off on every setting, thats why we have them there to change as each field is different

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Pete E wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:40 pm Funnily enough I was only thinking that the other day...I am hearing lots of rumours of a major update being on the way for the Nox...Some says its a completely new model and some say it's a major software release...Which ever, I am hoping ML will give us a clock and possibly a GPS on the next version...
They are sponsoring Detectival again I hear so that sounds likely! A new model I mean, not the clock!
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Funnily enough I was only thinking that the other day...I am hearing lots of rumours of a major update being on the way for the Nox...Some says its a completely new model and some say it's a major software release...Which ever, I am hoping ML will give us a clock and possibly a GPS on the next version...
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They are sponsoring Detectival again I hear so that sounds likely! A new model I mean, not the clock!
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Ctx replacement possibly, has been bounded about for a while🤔
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Oxgirl wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:19 pm A new model I mean, not the clock!
You have to crush a man's dreams! :) :)
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bob79 wrote: Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:47 pm Ctx replacement possibly, has been bounded about for a while🤔
That makes the most sense to me as any major improvement to the Nox would pretty much kill the CTX anyway....
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