Anton 2021 rally.

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Looks like Bob and Paint and mrs Piant are gonna be shedded tonight with the bar tab :lol:
Well, at least 20% there

I feel for you Evan with the airy ground and a minelab, it is a bane of minelab users for sure
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bob79 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:22 pm Having a half time pint with Evan, not much for me, Evan has got a nice bag seal.20210918_131105.jpg20210918_131122.jpg
I am not an expert so waiting for feedback from StuE, but to me the trade mark looks to be for a Ohlendorff & Co. London Guano Seal from 1858 to 1883.

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Blackadder43 wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:09 pm
I feel for you Evan with the airy ground and a minelab, it is a bane of minelab users for sure.
But is it Minelab or is it due to using simultaneous multi-frequency? Could always use it in single frequency if that is better on airy ground? I've not noticed that issue myself but then again I don't tend to go on airy ground. :D
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Saffron wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:05 pm
I am not an expert so waiting for feedback from StuE, but to me the trade mark looks to be for a Ohlendorff & Co. London Guano Seal from 1858 to 1883.
Spot on. :thumbsup:
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Easylife wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm But is it Minelab or is it due to using simultaneous multi-frequency? Could always use it in single frequency if that is better on airy ground? I've not noticed that issue myself but then again I don't tend to go on airy ground. :D
Good question. I have heard the comment about different Minelab models, but unsure if they are using simultaneous multi-frequency?.

Will admit I did not think to try a single freq. If I go tomorrow I will give it a try, thanks for the comment.

Like you I don't tend to go on airy ground as I am normally on old pasture, but today had no option.

After partaking of lunch time refreshment, pint and egg and bacon bap :thumbsup: walked down to the one field and a Deus user was walking out and laughed "You brought a Nox to cultivated ground" :thumbdown: .... in fairness he did point out the area where some Roman coins were coming from and said that where some other people were in the middle of the field was producing nothing. But a combination of the ground conditions and my record with Roman produced the expected result - 1 button, 2 shotties, a few bits of random rubbish but no Roman.

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Home again totally knackered but totally worth it :thumbsup: good to meet up with Bob and Evan again and share a chat but even better when I was told that the forum had given us a beer kitty :Party: and it was only Bob and myself in the bar so thanks very much the Guinness was great after 6 hours 0n the fields
Did manage a few good finds which was a bonus one hammy each day and a half decent Roman and a couple of other bits definitely will book for next year as a good crowd and well run and weather was if anything to hot :o over 25 degrees both days
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Well done Paint, some good finds there :clapping:
Glad you all had a good time and very pleased you enjoyed the drink on the Hub :thumbsup:
Bet you're pooped now so get that kettle on and put thine feet up :thumbsup:
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Saffron wrote: Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:05 pm I am not an expert so waiting for feedback from StuE, but to me the trade mark looks to be for a Ohlendorff & Co. London Guano Seal from 1858 to 1883.

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Close but no cigar. StuE said that its actually Ohlendorff's successor company Anglo-Continental, he already has identical one here http://www.bagseals.org/gallery/main.p ... temId=4629

As always on StuE's site lots of background where its available, in this case the link to the Newport History site even has an original advert for it.

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Paint wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:57 pm .... even better when I was told that the forum had given us a beer kitty :Party: and it was only Bob and myself in the bar so thanks very much the Guinness was great after 6 hours
I thought gee just how big was the TDH beer kitty until I read "...on the fields!" :lol:
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It was good to see forum members Bob and Paint (and also Mrs P - why is she not on the forum? .... is Mr P worried about competition? - and young Miss P).

I have attended this rally several times and yet again this was well run and very friendly. Most importantly its a CHARITY event, although its not one of the big ones it still raises a decent sum, in part due to volunteers from the Rotary Club doing the catering rather than a comercial outfit profiting .... so it would have been rude not to support them.

Its a historic site / area and normally produces good finds. Although I thought my finds were below par this time I know large number of hammies and decent Roman coins (rather than the normal grots) were found and it was a pleasure to see some of them.

I would certainly recommend it to anybody for next year.

I also understand that there is some news relating to this rally that will shock seasoned detectorists ... details to follow when confirmed.

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I thought that my finds were "below par" from this rally considering the areas history and what others were finding, but put that down in a large part to the ground having mainly been cultivated but not rolled (in fairness to the organisers and farmer he had worked wonders to get this ground into even this condition for us, even to the extent of changing his planned crop rotation - that is dedication :thumbsup: ) resulting in it being very airy and dry which certainly did not suit the Nox, additionally I am not used to detecting on this type of land.

But I did get some "bits and pieces", my favourite being the bag seal - which the ident by StuE and links to his site have provided so much background information about.

First photo shows the selection, interestingly all 3 buckles were found in the same area they all appear to be what I class as "plain agricultural horse related", so something slightly different was going on in this small area compared to the rest of the 44 acre field.

Second photo shows some of the slightly better finds again.
The Queen Victoria 1/2 penny is 1875 and in good condition so will look nice after a clean. No idea what the very small coin is, initially guessed a farthing but the size is wrong, seems a bit thick for a Roman grot and size is near spot on for a decimal 1/2p so could be that although thought it was older by the condition.
Think the item by it might be a fragment of crotal bell.
Most that saw the small lead item thought it was a spindle whorl, could well be but if so its by far the smallest I have seen.
Initially thought the lead item in the corner of the triangle was a token, but it is heavy and now believe its a trade weight.
The photo does not give that button justice. It was a heartbreaker, it looks silver (much lighter than in the photo), largely covered in dirt with a bit of the pattern around the edge showing and very thin and no indication of a fitting on the back until the dirt was very carefully removed to reveal the pattern I was convinced I had a large hammered. Gutted.

Edit: after looking at the preview photos might be the oether way around to what I expected!.

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Yesterday I said "I also understand that there is some news relating to this rally that will shock seasoned detectorists ... details to follow when confirmed."

Well this shocking news has been confirmed. To avoid risk of injury when fainting when it is revealed please ensure you are sat down before reading further.

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Even I managed to find a ROMAN that was better than your normal grot :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Those that know me will know what an extremely rare event this is.

As I never find them I have no idea what it other than "Roman with 2 soldiers", (and even then would not be surprised if the "soldiers" were "gods"), so any ID would be much appreciated as always.

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*Reaches up from the floor, scrabbling for the mouse to click the thumbs up*
:clapping: :clapping:

Excellent stuff fella, you kept that quiet for 24 hours lol
No idea on an ID but feel free to bung a new thread in the ID forum and see what comes back (not everyone looks through 4 page threads, so it may go unnoticed for a while otherwise)
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Good too meet Paint and Evan again, had a great couple of evenings in the pub with Paint.
Very nice of the forum to provide a beer kitty, as Evan decided to return on Sunday so I gave him a third of the kitty which he invested in a pint, burger and chips at dinner time.
Going was a little rough in places nice and flat in others, ground was a bit dry.
Finds wise on the Saturday there was about 25 hammies from the end of the field nearest to the fair site, few more on Sunday, coins from most ages.
Very well run as always by nice friendly bunch of people, email today from Tony the treasurer thanking everyone and saying £2,500 had been raised.
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