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TerraEnglandia wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:04 pm Have you gone back to the V2 software Peter?
Yes, easy enough to do...connect the machine and load the Updater Utility, and it will automatically scan your machine and say it's up to date..

At that point, in the very bottom right of the screen you will see three small dots..click on those and it will open a page showing the various software updates and you just click on the one you wish to go back to...in theory you could go back to Version 1 if you want..

Once you click the software, it takes about 2 minutes to do...

One thing is that when I initially updated, the machine retained my settings, but when I reverted back to V2, it lost them and went to factory defaults..Not a big issue but I suspect some people might want to make a note of their setting before they start..
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Well I was just about to push the button on a new Nox but with dubious software and pictures of experienced folk digging loads of trash I'm beginning to wonder ;)
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TerraEnglandia wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:53 am Spotted elsewhere but worth sharing.
https://www.minelab.com/usa/equinox-software-update-3-0
Are you guys actually using the4 kHz setting then? I ask this question, only because it has not been added to the Multi frequency list, and is in fact a stand alone setting, so will make no difference if your Nox is version 1 or version 3.

Personally I like the new version, , much more stable out in the fields that I detect on, but a little more sensitive to overhead power lines as I found out last week, but a noise cancel with the coil pointing at the wires soon had the nox running as normal again.

V3, gets a thumbs up from me :thumbsup:
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I-Rutus wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:41 pm

Are you guys actually using the4 kHz setting then? I ask this question, only because it has not been added to the Multi frequency list, and is in fact a stand alone setting, so will make no difference if your Nox is version 1 or version 3.

Personally I like the new version, , much more stable out in the fields that I detect on, but a little more sensitive to overhead power lines as I found out last week, but a noise cancel with the coil pointing at the wires soon had the nox running as normal again.

V3, gets a thumbs up from me :thumbsup:
I tried the 4khz setting on a couple of targets, but not enough to draw any conclusions other than it worked, but most of the time I was using multi frequency...

From what I have read online, I have to say the majority of people who have done the update seem to be happy enough...In fact given how easy it is to revert back, I would still urge all Nox owners to try V3 for themselves...Personally I will probably stay on V2 for the foreseeable, but may try the update again sometime in the future.
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I was out earlier on my stubble field directly under power lines. I use a combination of 15Khz and Multi as the EMI is quite variable and requires frequent manual noise cancelling. But I noticed no difference than before updating to V3. In this situation with the 15” coil I can run 15khz sensitivity at 23/24 but Multi at only 20. Previously 15khz has impressed me here in pulling a hammy from 9 inches deep when it just sounded shallow, but multi is king by far. :thumbsup:
Since updating to V3 target responses seem quite jumpy on this field compared to V2 and don't sound so sharp. I know that V3 is not supposed to have changed this so maybe it's just me? But jumpy numbers on decimal pennies! They were always solid before. Many other TID's were jumpy also when they should not have been. :o I'll stick with it for now.
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Easylife wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:35 pm I was out earlier on my stubble field directly under power lines. I use a combination of 15Khz and Multi as the EMI is quite variable and requires frequent manual noise cancelling. But I noticed no difference than before updating to V3. In this situation with the 15” coil I can run 15khz sensitivity at 23/24 but Multi at only 20. Previously 15khz has impressed me here in pulling a hammy from 9 inches deep when it just sounded shallow, but multi is king by far. :thumbsup:
Since updating to V3 target responses seem quite jumpy on this field compared to V2 and don't sound so sharp. I know that V3 is not supposed to have changed this so maybe it's just me? But jumpy numbers on decimal pennies! They were always solid before. Many other TID's were jumpy also when they should not have been. :o I'll stick with it for now.
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What you were getting sounds similar to what I got with those musket balls...

How deep were the decimal pennies and the other targets with jumpy TDI?

If they were on the deep side, I would say that it's probably inconclusive, but if they were shallow to medium depth targets, I'd say it's not good.

It's hard to compare directly results because I tend not to hunt in All Metal, but I think you are noticing the machines responses has "changed" slightly.

I notice in the Minelab blurb they say the V3 update offers stability enhancements, but I never had any problems with stability in the first place, in fact the Nox always struck me as being very stable and well mannered even with the sensitivity cranked right up...
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Easylife wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:35 pm As Toyah would say - It's a mystery? :-?
Did she not say, "it's a mysterwy"
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Pete E wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:46 am What you were getting sounds similar to what I got with those musket balls...

How deep were the decimal pennies and the other targets with jumpy TDI?

I notice in the Minelab blurb they say the V3 update offers stability enhancements, but I never had any problems with stability in the first place, in fact the Nox always struck me as being very stable and well mannered even with the sensitivity cranked right up...
The pennies were 6/7" deep. I never had any stability issues either with V2 and I do run the machine hard. The only difference on this field is that the soil is damp whereas before it was much drier. I might try V2 next time on this same field to see if there really is any difference at all or not?
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I tried the update a couple of weeks ago and found this using Neils beach to land, but I thought the machine was too quiet. I like a sparky machine. So I have gone back to V1.7 as it has been very successful.

This was at 12 - 18" on Pasture.
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Let me drag this subject back up.... After installing the V3 software, are you then doing a full factory reset, and re installing your program settings, before using the machine out in the field. If not, this could be the cause of your stability issues.
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I didn't do a full factory reset and the machine retained my setting as I checked..

Went out this evening after reverting back to V2 and my old Nox is back!! It hard to quantify, but it just sounds and performs better....
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I-Rutus wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:53 pm Let me drag this subject back up.... After installing the V3 software, are you then doing a full factory reset, and re installing your program settings, before using the machine out in the field. If not, this could be the cause of your stability issues.
I have updated (again) because I read about doing a full reset so I will test it on Saturday. There is nothing on the ML website about doing a full reset, just lots of people saying I should.
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Dave77 wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:09 pm I tried the update a couple of weeks ago and found this using Neils beach to land, but I thought the machine was too quiet. I like a sparky machine. So I have gone back to V1.7 as it has been very successful.

This was at 12 - 18" on Pasture.
I'm the same I stuck to v1.7 it's the most successful update they did...they never botherd with any updates since the nox 900 and 700 came out and the manticore the software went into them but the 1.7 was the best changeable update they did been nox user since they came out...
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