Saxons v Romans? A Roman bites the dust!

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Charles Abbeyville
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Following on from one of Alex's (HolzHammer) finds, a roman coin with a hole drilled through it, I wonder if anyone has considered the following?
His Roman coin had a hole drilled in it NOT ABOVE THE HEAD as we would assume anyone would do it but the hole was drilled BEHIND the head, therefore the Romans face would face the mud/dust.
I have found quite a few like this over the years and only once did I find one with a hole drilled above the head.
I attach two examples (both radiate heads) and invite your comments, is it anti-Roman or what?
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Certainly not done in support of what once was.
Many such coins have been found in Anglo Saxon graves, worn as adornments in life and hopefully the afterlife :thumbsup:
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Very interesting, and not something that's occurred to me before. It makes a certain sense. Only ever found one but I no longer have it to check and it would be interesting to hear if anyone else can comment :thumbsup:
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On Alex's and your top coin it seems that the holes were drilled to avoid the head. On your second coin is the reverse the right way up?
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Love the way things were reused and the way it was done and what it symbolises. I might start looking more closely at examples I see too.

Thanks Charles, you’ve fired up my grey cells :thumbsup:
Yes I really don’t like Roman coins, I’m not joking
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Here's a drilled sestertius that I found.
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Very interesting Charles, thank you for that,
I'm having a sort out of stuff found on a Saxon site & have found a few holed Roman coins,
Will have a closer look at how they would hang.
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Easylife wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:54 pm On Alex's and your top coin it seems that the holes were drilled to avoid the head. On your second coin is the reverse the right way up?
You are looking at this coin 'as is'. I haven't reversed it.
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stanslad wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:12 pm Very interesting Charles, thank you for that,
I'm having a sort out of stuff found on a Saxon site & have found a few holed Roman coins,
Will have a closer look at how they would hang.
Clint :thumbsup:
That's great my friend, I will be very interested to see how many are drilled like this.
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Charles Abbeyville wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:14 pm You are looking at this coin 'as is'. I haven't reversed it.
Yes, but is the hole at the top of the reverse design which isn't shown?
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Easylife wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:29 pm Yes, but is the hole at the top of the reverse design which isn't shown?
I keep reading this and still can't grasp your meaning my friend? Is there a typo in there? Can you put the question a different way?
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Of the coins I can get to at the moment, (there’s a few more somewhere)the holes are in the hanging positions so the heads of the Romans would be…
5 looking down & 2 upside down,
The silver Philip II of Macedon Greek drachm 323-315bc is holed so he looks up at the wearer,
Only one reverse (top right)is the right way up if turned round.
Clint :?:
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Charles Abbeyville wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:47 pm I keep reading this and still can't grasp your meaning my friend? Is there a typo in there? Can you put the question a different way?
I could but will just give up. See Clint's post above and you should get it? :thumbsup:
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Easylife wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:56 pm I could but will just give up. See Clint's post above and you should get it? :thumbsup:
I think I see what you might mean. I haven't even considered the reverse because as you know each one is different, the reverse could show in any position to the obverse. I don't imagine the 'driller' had any thoughts on the reverse only where do I drill the hole in relation to the head.
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Being a person who doesn’t get excited about Roman coins the only reasons I can see for bothering to hole the things is for good luck. After all we know how superstitious those medieval lot were. However I am not convinced it was to wear them all as jewellery…

I know I watched a TV programme once where there was clear evidence of Roman coins being nailed to beams/ wooden supports in medieval households - sure it was an early medieval (Saxon) home. I’d forgotten about that! I am now wondering how coins were reused :Thinking:

If just nailing it to a beam was the sole reason for the hole so the local blacksmith just wacked a hole in with no regard for any design or coin orientation. Mind you I do find that hard to believe as they were fussy about symbolism so I’m instead going to plump for the modesty theory - i think they were made to avert their eyes :D
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