Bronze disc..... Royal Farthing?

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Morning All,
Found this yesterday on the Suffolk Norfolk border in deep pasture... Im not sure if it has lettering or just decoration - but I really like it it is very tactile... No idea though a pendant of sorts to be hung bu a chain through the loop?
The site looks interesting.......
Any help would be much appreciated... and any help with a more thorough ID of the Charles Royal farthing much appreciated too ( I can't unbend any more it will snap!!!)
All the Best
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Top item looked like it could be a cut out coin but then the reverse is plain. Looks to be medieval lettering.
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The mint market for the farthing is directly above the crowned harp on the reverse. Could you see if you can get another photo as that’s the one area we can’t see ;)

EDIT - I am talking rubbish above :oops: it’s above the crown on the front. Still can’t work it out though.
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This is a good site for the farthing mint marks

http://www.psdetecting.com/Mintmarks-Ch ... lesII.html
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I am pretty sure it’s an Irish Maltravers one. Check out the extra marks at the end of the legend on the front side - they exactly match this one.

Note The new Maltravers farthings differed in the following ways :-

The obverse shows two sceptres through a crown, and the legend CAROLVS DG MAG BR — Charles, by the grace of God, of Great Britain
The reverse shows a crowned harp and the continuing inscription FRAN ET HIB REX — France and Ireland, King.
These issues have inner circles on both sides of the coin, between the legend and the design element.
Four main die variations exist.


For more ID info and the story of these farthings go here
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There are some coins of the style and size of the 'disc' though better pics may help. :thumbsup:
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Could it be a Annular brooch :?:
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Gleaner wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:01 am Could it be a Annular brooch :?:
I think so. :thumbsup:
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Oxgirl wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:15 am I am pretty sure it’s an Irish Maltravers one. Check out the extra marks at the end of the legend on the front side - they exactly match this one.

Note The new Maltravers farthings differed in the following ways :-

The obverse shows two sceptres through a crown, and the legend CAROLVS DG MAG BR — Charles, by the grace of God, of Great Britain
The reverse shows a crowned harp and the continuing inscription FRAN ET HIB REX — France and Ireland, King.
These issues have inner circles on both sides of the coin, between the legend and the design element.
Four main die variations exist.


For more ID info and the story of these farthings go here
Thank you very much Cath for your knowledge - sorry not to get back sooner!
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Easylife wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:42 am There are some coins of the style and size of the 'disc' though better pics may help. :thumbsup:
Ill try and get some more in better light the were taken in bit of a rush this morning!
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Gleaner wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:01 am Could it be a Annular brooch :?:
I though that but not sure how it would work... actually now I do ... thank you!
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So here is the only medieval annular brooch with a pin wrapping round a perforation on the PAS website so thanks for the heads up Gleaner et al…. I had never seem a perforated one before you learn something new!

https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/558018
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HolzHammer wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:41 pm So here is the only medieval annular brooch with a pin wrapping round a perforation on the PAS website.
There are a few more but this design is most like yours. :thumbsup:
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... id/1019532

https://finds.org.uk/database/search/re ... erforation
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Easylife wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:18 pm There are a few more but this design is most like yours. :thumbsup:
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... id/1019532

https://finds.org.uk/database/search/re ... erforation
Nice one Easy, thank you very much!
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