Harness related? Intriguing find from today..

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Another headscratcher for me. Copper alloy with gold gilding.
I haven't been out detecting for a while, and managed an hour or so today, but finds were limited to lead mostly until this came up on the way back to the truck.
I've been searching the PAS site but no luck yet! All help/pointers gratefully received and praying that someone is able to help.
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I'm gonna get laughed at for this
But
Picture 3 looks like an 'anteater' :shock:
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Blackadder43 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm I'm gonna get laughed at for this
But
Picture 3 looks like an 'anteater' :shock:
:lol: Yep! now I won't see anything else! That's cruel :lol: :lol: :lol:
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It looks like one of a pair of end stands off something that was bolted to them? :Thinking:
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Blackadder43 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:29 pm I'm gonna get laughed at for this
But
Picture 3 looks like an 'anteater' :shock:

I'm gona get laughed at too, first picture I see a Camel.... :o

This is not helping to get an ID, is it harness related I wonder, the hole in the item looks like its a fixing point ?

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Steve_JT wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:49 pm I'm gona get laughed at too, first picture I see a Camel.... :o

This is not helping to get an ID, is it harness related I wonder, the hole in the item looks like its a fixing point ?

Regards Steve
:lol: well I'd much rather have the gentle zoomorphic analogies rather than the usual go to on certain metaldetecting fb groups! :roll:
Thanks Steve!
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It has been identified via twitter as a Medieval horse harness fitting, but I still don't know which fitting!
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For anyone interested, Dr Simon Maslin on twitter gave me an id
This is a link on PAS https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/60192
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brambleton wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:31 pm It has been identified via twitter as a Medieval horse harness fitting, but I still don't know which fitting!
Yar, there are quite a few bits of metal knocking about on a nag's tack and figuring out what goes where can be challenging :D :thumbsup:
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figgis wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:21 pm Yar, there are quite a few bits of metal knocking about on a nag's tack and figuring out what goes where can be challenging :D :thumbsup:
:lol: in this case it's a bit bit :lol:
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There are some similar bridle bits of this shape but the bit should go through the bottom round and there doesn’t appear to be anything there?

Confusing :Thinking:
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Oxgirl wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:50 pm There are some similar bridle bits of this shape but the bit should go through the bottom round and there doesn’t appear to be anything there?

Confusing :Thinking:
The most helpful illustration following the id from Dr Maslin on twitter came from a fb group "The Medieval Horse and its Equipment" one of whose members posted this pic....
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brambleton wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:04 pm The most helpful illustration following the id from Dr Maslin on twitter came from a fb group "The Medieval Horse and its Equipment" one of whose members posted this pic....
I'm looking at it but have absolutely no idea how it works. It looks like a mini mangle! :Thinking: :lol:
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Easylife wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:12 pm I'm looking at it but have absolutely no idea how it works. It looks like a mini mangle! :Thinking: :lol:
:lol: I'm struggling, but I think I've got the gist. Not easy to see with modern bits in mind - they are a lot simpler.
I seem to remember a Time Team episode where they recreated what looked like a monstrously 'evil' bit and it was much kinder than they anticipated regarding the horse, and made for ease of controlling the horse with both reins in one hand (the shield hand) of the rider, while leaving a hand free for 'whatever' ! Just need to find a sword now :lol:
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