Silver day part 2

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It was a nice break and with tea done and the rainbow arching over the field I wondered if I would be lucky enough to find that pot of Gold ! I wish ! I decided to stay put and continue walking the line seeing as I had been a jammy git , one end of the field to the other and apart from bits of random lead and and a few scrappy bits of copper , not a lot else was happening .
A little while later about half way on my second line I had another decent signal although a little feint but again yet another cut half , I cooldnt believe it , I was sure glad that I never left for home earlier .
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My run of luck with Hammered coins has been really good as of late and today was no exception , I had to stop and look up to the skies and give a thumbs up .
The next find was eyes only and I am by far no expert but this find just glared at me and it stood out lie a sore thumb in amongst the thousands of flint shards and stones that litter these fields . I have picked a few flints up on my way in the feint hope that I have found a worked piece but deep down I have known that they are naturally formed or plough beaten to be the real deal . This time though I just know this is the real thing but prepared to be told otherwise . If it isnt then it has to be the closest thing I have found to looking like a worked piece of flint .
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By now I was buzzing , it had been a fruit full afternoon and I had one more line to do and then the darkness would be my calling card to finally go home . Another blank line and it was almost at the end of the filed I got another good signal and rewarded with one more Hammered coin .
In angling we call this " a red letter day " if sport had been good and this was my metal detecting version of a red letter day . I doubt I will do the same again for a long while . It is a great hobby and luck plays a part now and again .
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ooh, that's a nice lithic - it's the real deal. Well spotted. It looks like a point but can you post pictures of both sides and one edge on and if I can't pin it down I have a couple of folk who should be able to. I'm guessing from the sixpence as a scale it's about 7cm long?
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You have had a superb day :clapping: Still never found a proper worked flint like that. Is it a leaf shaped arrow head? I have by no means any real knowledge of them but it has that look. This article might help.

Love the silver too! Two beautiful coins :Star:
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Very nice finds. :thumbsup:
The chinese coin can be dated with better pics, I found one that was 19th C.
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What a great day fella :thumbsup:
Eyes are still as keen as a teenagers i see, well found on the flint :shock: :clapping:

Tell me, in the colder weather conditions, were all your silver signals definate diggers?...what i mean is were any of them a bit meh, not sure type of signals?
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Blackadder43 wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:14 pm What a great day fella :thumbsup:
Eyes are still as keen as a teenagers i see, well found on the flint :shock: :clapping:

Tell me, in the colder weather conditions, were all your silver signals definate diggers?...what i mean is were any of them a bit meh, not sure type of signals?
The sixpence was a definite digger as was the larger hammered coin . The cut halves and the tiny one were a bit iffy but good enough to dig . Hence my surprise at them being hammered coins , they werent as "sharp" as you would think for a bit of silver .
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Lovely looking flint Kb, looks beautiful :thumbsup:
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DaveP wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:08 pm ooh, that's a nice lithic - it's the real deal. Well spotted. It looks like a point but can you post pictures of both sides and one edge on and if I can't pin it down I have a couple of folk who should be able to. I'm guessing from the sixpence as a scale it's about 7cm long?
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Here you go . As you quite rightly said , 70 mm x 35 mm .
I see the "stone" embedded which I am assuming is part of its natural make up . That face looks unfinished so would it have been discarded due to the "stone" being a possible weak point .
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Easylife wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:46 pm Very nice finds. :thumbsup:
The chinese coin can be dated with better pics, I found one that was 19th
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That would be a red letter day out in my part of the world! Some lovely silver and a very nicely worked bit of flint......
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Thanks for the additional pictures.
Having part of the cortex, the outside of the stone, included in a lithic is not unusual and not necessarily a reason to discard it. Everyone assumes that, based on all the fine lithics that turn up in books and on display, they all looked perfect. There would have been lesser skilled people, Friday afternoon or Monday morning (although they weren't yet invented :D ) lithics, and plenty of "oh that'll do" lithics.
I think yours is missing a bit(s) or has had some hefty knocks. In picture 1 at the bottom and picture 3 rhs there are some flake areas with very deep ripples. This is characteristic of it being hit too hard or with the wrong hardness of hammer - it's usually the result of cultivation damage. Flakes taken off by hand will have very subtle to almost invisible ripples.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the technology changes and doesn't get better and better the later you go. By the time you get to the late Neolithic -early Bronze age there are some beautiful arrowheads and some really slap-dash other bits. A sort of, "need a tool, knock off a few flakes, do the job, toss it away" approach. It can also make dating them a bit hit and miss. One of the chaps I correspond with here in Surrey as a renowned lithics expert and even he says, when it really comes down to it we have to guess as we weren't there!

I'm still thinking along the lines of a point but not an arrowhead due to the thickness and it probably being a bigger item.

I'll send your pictures to another expert and see what he says and be back soon.

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Kenleyboy wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:54 pm 20211130_223916_resized[40574]chinese 2.jpg
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1796 - 1820. :thumbsup:
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Easylife wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:28 pm 1796 - 1820. :thumbsup:
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Nice one Easylife :thumbsup: I didnt think it would date that far back , nice surprise .
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Blimey, you were a busy boy, Paul! What a day, chap :thumbsup:
Kenleyboy wrote: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:27 pm The sixpence was a definite digger as was the larger hammered coin . The cut halves and the tiny one were a bit iffy but good enough to dig . Hence my surprise at them being hammered coins , they werent as "sharp" as you would think for a bit of silver .
I've had cut halves give the most god awful signal but there's a certain brightness in there which persuades you to get the spade in.
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Quality finds there,and day with a hammered is a good day but four is brilliant! Lovely flint as well. :thumbsup:
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