Saxon Disc Brooch?

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HolzHammer
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Morning All,
I found a couple of the more unusual fibulas a couple of days ago - well at least I hope they are - the cruciform one must be but not sure on the other as the "hinge" looks very modern though the rest of the reverse less so... mind you the technology of the hinge has not changed much in 2000 years has it....?

I can't make out much on the obverse of the "disc" brooch but think I can see some sort of design/ little circles etc.....

Anyway, any help much appreciated!
All the Best
Alexander
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They look the part to me , not that I know anything about roman brooches, I only usually find fragments! Good to see you are still out there smashing it!
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Thanks Matt - I'm not sure they are even Roman... if they are brooches at all!!! Hope all well
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I'm gonna wait for a grown up to come along to answer your ID's :ugeek:
But glad you are still pulling things from their hiding places fella
Darn cold though, certainly long john weather :thumbsup:
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Blackadder43 wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 2:11 pm I'm gonna wait for a grown up to come along to answer your ID's :ugeek:
But glad you are still pulling things from their hiding places fella
Darn cold though, certainly long john weather :thumbsup:
Bruce any excuse to wear Long Johns (or thick girls tights if you can't get hold of them as they are easier to come across in supermarkets!!!! :D ) so cosy!!!
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1st C Hod Hill brooch and not sure about the disc, to be honest
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The disc brooch looks to have a bird above something? :Thinking:
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The disc brooch does look like a Roman 2nd century flat plain edge composite type, where the plates were made separate & different designs applied to front like in these Hattatt drawings,
It could be a design on the front or the remains of the paste/glue that held the separate front plate or metal/glass work that made up the design.
Clint :Thinking:
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A nice couple of brooches HolzHammer :thumbsup:
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Two good IDs already on the brooches :thumbsup:

I had a Hod Hill almost exactly the same on a field in Suffolk many years ago :thumbsup:
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Now that’s a nice pair of brooches. Love seeing the variety of types that the Romans managed to produce!
Yes I really don’t like Roman coins, I’m not joking
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stanslad wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:02 pm The disc brooch does look like a Roman 2nd century flat plain edge composite type, where the plates were made separate & different designs applied to front like in these Hattatt drawings,
It could be a design on the front or the remains of the paste/glue that held the separate front plate or metal/glass work that made up the design.
Clint :Thinking:
Thanks Clint thats very helpful; I have just added another photo - rightly or wrongly I had to try and clean it a little to see if I could eek out any more detail.... do you think it helps?!
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alloverover wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 9:06 pm Two good IDs already on the brooches :thumbsup:

I had a Hod Hill almost exactly the same on a field in Suffolk many years ago :thumbsup:
Thanks alloverover I was hoping you'd see this - I have added another photo (above) after a bit of a clean to see if I could eek out any detail... any thoughts much appreciated!
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Oxgirl wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:06 pm Now that’s a nice pair of brooches. Love seeing the variety of types that the Romans managed to produce!
Thanks Cath we'll romanise you eventually! ( that doesn't sound quite right!!!!! :D )
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HolzHammer wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:11 am I had to try and clean it a little to see if I could eek out any more detail.... do you think it helps?!
If you rotate that last image left 120 degrees it looks like an upright cross, the whole design then being symetrical on the vertical axis, the back pin orientation also fits that too. :thumbsup:
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