New Chair and Trustee of the Treasure Valuation Committee

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Here’s some news which might be of interest to anyone who has items going through the treasure process. Roger Bland and Megan Gooch have been appointed by the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport as Chair and Trustee respectively of theTreasure Valuation Committee for five years from 6 August 2020 to 5 August 2025.

Professor Roger Bland retired in 2015 as Keeper of the Department of Britain, Europe and Prehistory at the British Museum, which he joined as a curator in 1979. For eight years he was seconded to the Department for Culture, Media and Sport to advise on the reform of the law of treasure, resulting in the Treasure Act 1996, and he was responsible for drawing up the Code of Practice on the Act. In 1997 he established the Portable Antiquities Scheme which he led until retirement.

Bland is a visiting Professor at the University of Leicester, a Fellow of the MacDonald Institute of Archaeological Research, Cambridge and President of the Royal Numismatic Society. He is an expert on hoarding, the law of treasure and Roman coinage and has published many books and articles on these subjects.

Dr Megan Gooch is the Head of the Centre for Digital Scholarship and Digital Humanities Support, at the Bodleian Libraries and Humanities Division at the University of Oxford.

Megan has been involved in coins since her undergraduate study at the University of Cambridge, followed by an MA and PhD at Durham University focusing on early medieval numismatics. She spent time as a British coin specialist at Spink & Son (2006-2008), and the Money Gallery Curator at the British Museum (2008-2010). She then moved to Historic Royal Palaces to curate the permanent exhibition The Tower’s Mint at the Tower of London, in partnership with the Royal Mint Museum. She then moved to project management and production roles within HRP in Learning and Public Engagement as well as being a Research Fellow on the AHRC-funded project Lest We Forget.

Megan has served and continues to serve on many numismatic bodies and charities, including as a council member for the British Numismatic Society (2007-2013), autumn conference organiser for the British Association of Numismatic Societies (2008-2011), Money and Medals Subject Specialist Network Steering Committee member (2010 – present) and Honorary Secretary of the Royal Numismatic Society (2016 – present).

Neither receive any remuneration for their roles! I was surprised by that!

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Appreciate that Cath.
Waiting for an inquest at the moment, on 3 BA items. Awl, fragment of blade and casting waste.
BM put in an inquest request in March, after i informed FLO last April.
If it goes through the TVC will probably value at a Fiver, then split 2 ways, although i will probably donate as there is an expression of interest from a Museum. :(
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Dave The Slave wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:16 pm Appreciate that Cath.
Waiting for an inquest at the moment, on 3 BA items. Awl, fragment of blade and casting waste.
BM put in an inquest request in March, after i informed FLO last April.
If it goes through the TVC will probably value at a Fiver, then split 2 ways, although i will probably donate as there is an expression of interest from a Museum. :(
Cheers, :thumbsup:
Dave.
There really should be a better way of dealing with "low cash value" finds...Maybe the FLO should deal rather than go straight to the BM and then the Coroner ...If an agreement between the FLO and the finder can't be reached, then it could progress onto the BM and the Coroner...
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Pete E wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:24 pm There really should be a better way of dealing with "low cash value" finds...Maybe the FLO should deal rather than go straight to the BM and then the Coroner ...If an agreement between the FLO and the finder can't be reached, then it could progress onto the BM and the Coroner...
Hi Pete, came to that value by reading through all the TVC valuation meetings of the past few years on the PAS website. Quite interesting as sometimes there is a higher or lower settlement on the original valuation. Sometimes a finder can get less for not following procedures, which they explain.
Good suggestion, although i feel most finders would take the BM route.
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Hi Dave,

For the potentially low cash value items, do you remember if any of the valuations were wildly out either way?

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The TVC grossly undervalued one of mine at £70 so I provided them with some of their own previous valuations as support and they upped it to £130, nearly double their original valuation, which was very close to their own independent valuation. So not a good impression as I'm left a bit wary of what my current treasure case will be valued at by TVC, but we will see? :Thinking:
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Annual treasure reports containing previous valuations back to 1998 can be found here.
https://finds.org.uk/publications
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Easylife wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:50 pm The TVC grossly undervalued one of mine at £70 so I provided them with some of their own previous valuations as support and they upped it to £130, nearly double their original valuation, which was very close to their own independent valuation. So not a good impression as I'm left a bit wary of what my current treasure case will be valued at by TVC, but we will see? :Thinking:
But those figures are in the same ball park, and it shouldn't need the spending of a couple of thousand pounds of tax payers money to sort out a £90 discrepancy...the FLO should be able to deal with negotiating relatively minor amounts like that....
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Pete E wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:24 pm
There really should be a better way of dealing with "low cash value" finds...Maybe the FLO should deal rather than go straight to the BM and then the Coroner ...If an agreement between the FLO and the finder can't be reached, then it could progress onto the BM and the Coroner...
I had a brief discussion about this with my FLO this very morning when I went to pick up a low value treasure find. For background he recorded the find on 29/10/19 and it was disclaimed on 14/2/20. (Covid 19 stopped me picking it up any earlier.). I can't recount the conversation without asking him first but both he and us are bound by the law. Whatever anyone might want to happen you would need the law changed first. But, it would place an unrealistic burden on the FLO's and, in my opinion, shouldn't change. There just needs to be more investment in time and function to make sure the process works efficiently.

And an observation. Any treasure finds that also need conservation or detailed analysis by the BM will have been sitting, waiting, for everyone to return to work. At the same time every 'seasoned' or 'stay at home' or 'newbie' is out detecting and finding more to record. This will be a case of 1+1 = 3 and I think you can expect more delays.
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Let's hope they don't don dick Turpin face masks from their predecessors. And yes I am bitter and twisted as I've been on the far end of that system and it cost me a lot in many ways.
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Junk Treasure has always been an issue and hopefully this issue will be addressed with the Review of the Treasure Act. However i dont hold out much hope. When the Act was written the expectation of Treasure finds was unknown and the civil servant drafters lacked the knowledge of what could go wrong.

Roger Bland as you all will know was the former Head of the PAS and Treasure and so is a very experienced person for the job. Lets see how he gets on.
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