Up for a challenge? - A very poor coin

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Found in a new field on Saturday and it rang in at 18 on the Equinox. It was only a few inches deep beneath the stubble.

It came out looking worse for wear, quite dark in colour, but with a slight orange tinge near one edge.

I've been over it with a toothpick and I'm not sure why I spent as much time as I did on it, but it doesn't look quite like any other Farthings(?) that I've found so far and I wanted to attempt to get an ID.

You may be wondering why it has a bit of a shiny/silvery look, well I tried wax, I tried pencil lead, also rubbing with thumb and forefinger but I couldn't make anything out. Desperation got the better of me and I picked up an oldish lead pistol ball and rubbed it over the surfaces to try and reveal something . . . anything. :o

It may be my eyes, but if I catch the light just right, I think I can see a double bust on the obverse? Could it be a William and Mary Farthing?

Any thoughts appreciated.

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I can't even tell which way up this one is meant to be.
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possible. w/m farthing 22mm dia. shame it wasn't a tin one. :thumbsup:
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Thanks tone, would Tin have been in better condition?
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probably not but are rare coin's to fined. i've only had three in 40+ years detecting one being w/m the other two both james 2nd. oh keep up with the vid's very enjoyable :thumbsup:
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I'll go George III bullhead shilling forgery. :thumbsup:
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tone wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:46 pm probably not but are rare coin's to fined. i've only had three in 40+ years detecting one being w/m the other two both james 2nd. oh keep up with the vid's very enjoyable :thumbsup:
Thanks tone :)
Easylife wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:27 pm I'll go George III bullhead shilling forgery. :thumbsup:
Oh blimey Ian, now that I've just seen some obverse images, I reckon you might be onto something there! :thumbsup:
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coin looks to be full flan. bull head shilling 24mm dia.
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Real deal bullhead come in at about 26/27, my fakes are generally 18/20 on the Nox. :thumbsup:
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Thanks again folks, I'd say mystery solved. :thumbsup:
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Or perhaps not? :Thinking:

Here's a bit of video from my recent YouTube upload, I've got the Spinks book out :shock:

Link to the video.
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And so the saga continues :D :thumbsup:

Have you weighed it, Andy? There might be a difference between W&M farthings and GIII shilling wrong uns :thumbsup:
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Just chuck it in the jar with the other blanks Andy! :thumbsup:
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What? But the game is afoot, EL, and nobody is allowed to rest until the case is sol-ved (sorry to mix my detectives, but neither Holmes nor Clouseau would give up, would they?) :D
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figgis wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:09 pm What? But the game is afoot, EL, and nobody is allowed to rest until the case is sol-ved (sorry to mix my detectives, but neither Holmes nor Clouseau would give up, would they?) :D
Uh?, Oh of course silly me! Right, in that case it will need to be analysed using x-ray fluorescence to determine the metal composition. So Andy just needs to buy one of those £10k hand-held jobbies to solve the mystery and rid him of this evil coin's torment! :thumbsup: :rollinglaughing:
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Alas I only have standard kitchen scales and they don't show fractions. The weight seems to range between 4 and 6 grams, depending where abouts on the scale I put the coin. :Thinking: I know the coin is a mess, but I thought it was a bit interesting anyway.
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