I've had a few days with the Anfibio Multi. I find 2 tones not too bad, and 3 tones pretty stable. As soon as I move up to 4 tones the falsing and chat is very tricky. I have only played with Gain and Disc so far, so does anyone have any tips to calm 4T & 5T down a bit please?
Also, I haven't run with 99 tones yet, is that a bit more stable?
Thanks in advance.
Anfibio Multi - any tips for 4 tone and 5 tone please?
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Blackadder43
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I cant help with any settings as i have never used the Anfibio
But
When you increase the amount of tones then you are asking your machine to give you more information on each target, more processing going on so thats possibly why the machine feels a bit more sparkier to what you are used to
Ground balance would be important as you need to minimise as much ground noise as possible i imagine
Just quickly browsing the user manual for your machine i read this bit on the "Gain"
Same with the Gain again it says to ground balance the machine with gain in its default settings, then adjust the gain to cut down any chattering....
Seems an interesting machine and with a few more trips and a bit of tweaking i think you can tame it with the extra tones
I would try to get at least the 5 tones as that gives much better information to you than 2 or 3 tones in my opinion
Keep us informed and feel free to do a personal review of this machine if you wanted too, let me know and i'll create an Anfibio forum for it
Edit:
I just read you have a "notch" setting on your machine....again only my opinion but Notch settings are really targeted at the USA market as their coins they try to pin down to specific numbers and "notch" out ring pulls etc...something we shouldnt do in the UK
Double edit:
Just reading your machine has isat settings too
Twiddling these will result in loss of depth, so be wary of those
It seems to me (again just my opinion) That Nokta have over complicated what looks like a good machine with these isat settings
They may have their uses on ploughed where depth is not what you are looking for, but pasture you want to get as much depth as you can imo
I would try to keep your isat settings at zero on the multi as our ground mineralisation doesnt tend to "drift" all that much....well not that i have noticed really
But
When you increase the amount of tones then you are asking your machine to give you more information on each target, more processing going on so thats possibly why the machine feels a bit more sparkier to what you are used to
Ground balance would be important as you need to minimise as much ground noise as possible i imagine
Just quickly browsing the user manual for your machine i read this bit on the "Gain"
So, i would be experimenting with the frequency shift as a starting point, just incase its electrical/ground noiseGAIN
Gain is the depth setting of the device. It is also used to eliminate the ambient electromagnetic signals from the surrounding environment and noise signals transmitted from ground.
NOTE: To obtain maximum depth performance, to eliminate the noise caused by electromagnetic interference, try shifting the frequency first.
Same with the Gain again it says to ground balance the machine with gain in its default settings, then adjust the gain to cut down any chattering....
Seems an interesting machine and with a few more trips and a bit of tweaking i think you can tame it with the extra tones
I would try to get at least the 5 tones as that gives much better information to you than 2 or 3 tones in my opinion
Keep us informed and feel free to do a personal review of this machine if you wanted too, let me know and i'll create an Anfibio forum for it
Edit:
I just read you have a "notch" setting on your machine....again only my opinion but Notch settings are really targeted at the USA market as their coins they try to pin down to specific numbers and "notch" out ring pulls etc...something we shouldnt do in the UK
Double edit:
Just reading your machine has isat settings too
Twiddling these will result in loss of depth, so be wary of those
It seems to me (again just my opinion) That Nokta have over complicated what looks like a good machine with these isat settings
They may have their uses on ploughed where depth is not what you are looking for, but pasture you want to get as much depth as you can imo
I would try to keep your isat settings at zero on the multi as our ground mineralisation doesnt tend to "drift" all that much....well not that i have noticed really
Thanks Blackadder, very good of you to do such research on my behalf.
I agree with you're comments on the manual and the advice from Nokta/Makro, and I think you have a point, it's a machine where they have chucked a lot of options into the controls and possibly a little complicated on the face of it. I have heard that the iSat is a bit like the silencer on my Deus and acts as a secondary discrimination filter, and I need to experiment with that.
The land in question is very neutral and several previous machines have run on deeper settings without any issue, but I have heard that N/M machines can be a bit sparky in general. I'll experiment with frequency shift and GB and see what I can achieve.
If you want to open an Anfibio page then I have a first hunts video on You Tube, I would be happy to share it. One thing I will say is the build quality is superb.
Personally I never really think of land as plough or pasture, I've had many pasture areas that require shallow fast settings, and plough where you can go deep. I honestly think the top is only a small indication of what may be below, possibly when the land may have been used in a different way. I always let the feedback dictate my settings, not what the field looks like. I think the whole plough/pasture thing can be a bit misleading, but that's just my own personal theory mate. I guess if you have pasture that you know has been the same for centuries then that's a very different matter.
Thanks again for your help Blackadder it's greatly appreciated. I'll do more in depth experimenting and let you know how things go.
I agree with you're comments on the manual and the advice from Nokta/Makro, and I think you have a point, it's a machine where they have chucked a lot of options into the controls and possibly a little complicated on the face of it. I have heard that the iSat is a bit like the silencer on my Deus and acts as a secondary discrimination filter, and I need to experiment with that.
The land in question is very neutral and several previous machines have run on deeper settings without any issue, but I have heard that N/M machines can be a bit sparky in general. I'll experiment with frequency shift and GB and see what I can achieve.
If you want to open an Anfibio page then I have a first hunts video on You Tube, I would be happy to share it. One thing I will say is the build quality is superb.
Personally I never really think of land as plough or pasture, I've had many pasture areas that require shallow fast settings, and plough where you can go deep. I honestly think the top is only a small indication of what may be below, possibly when the land may have been used in a different way. I always let the feedback dictate my settings, not what the field looks like. I think the whole plough/pasture thing can be a bit misleading, but that's just my own personal theory mate. I guess if you have pasture that you know has been the same for centuries then that's a very different matter.
Thanks again for your help Blackadder it's greatly appreciated. I'll do more in depth experimenting and let you know how things go.
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Blackadder43
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The ploughed and pasture reference was more to do with the isat settings from my part
It seems its mainly there to counteract any big changes in mineralisation in the ground, which appears to be a bit hit and miss to get those numbers correct without a lot of in field fiddling, and can cause loss of depth if not set correctly or finely tuned correctly
Its probably something i would set at zero until i was confident it had a use in UK soils, if i were using it of course
As for your video, i just watched it and you have advertising at the start, which isnt something we will be encouraging for obvious reasons as a forum
But people can search your name on the tube and find it for themselves
I created the Nokta Makro Anfibio forum and moved your topic in already, so you have christened it
It seems its mainly there to counteract any big changes in mineralisation in the ground, which appears to be a bit hit and miss to get those numbers correct without a lot of in field fiddling, and can cause loss of depth if not set correctly or finely tuned correctly
Its probably something i would set at zero until i was confident it had a use in UK soils, if i were using it of course
As for your video, i just watched it and you have advertising at the start, which isnt something we will be encouraging for obvious reasons as a forum
But people can search your name on the tube and find it for themselves
I created the Nokta Makro Anfibio forum and moved your topic in already, so you have christened it