A strange looking find from a new permission.

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I gained a new permission the other week, the fields that I'd tried though had been cleaned up by detecting clubs.

I'd had a word with the farm manager, who I know through my work and I asked if he could think of any others fields that might not have been done over. He told me about a small ridge and furrow field, one that's very close to a local village with lots of history.

This one was 9" down and trapped in the soil by a piece of tree root. It rang in at 15 on the Nox, I think it's made of copper/copper alloy and it looks quite unusual. I think it might have some age to it, or at least I hope it does. :D

Possibly a belt or strap fitting?

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I have no idea, intrigued though
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I'll have to email my FLO tomorrow and see what she thinks to it. :Thinking:
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Looks like casting waste to me??? I am thinking it's sort of a spru from a mould that is designed to cast a number of objects the same time???
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I hadn't considered that Pete, you could well be on to something. :thumbsup:
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Not a clue what it was but it certainly looks dry old. Wouldn’t be surprised at Bronze Age or maybe that’s wishful thinking.
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I've been looking through casting waste on the PAS site and I haven't found anything similar, at least not so far. I did find a comment in a description for different item which says . . .
Casting spillage is usually single faced, the back having been open to the air and plain; this object appears to have been double sided
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Interesting find, no idea what it is, but agree it does seem to have some age to it.
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Andy, that's old old and the suggestion of casting sprue may not be far off the mark. I've found several, though admittedly not quite like yours.

The moulds contained what's called casting jets which fed the metal into several sections for the ancient equivalent of mass production and yours looks a likely candidate.

It could be an artefact in and of itself but it really looks like a by-product of the production of something else
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Thanks Reiver and John, :thumbsup:

I emailed my FLO this morning but I haven't had a reply so far, she may be getting fed up of receiving my emails. :D I did mention that it had been suggested, that it might be a casting waste, but hopefully I'll get to find out soon enough.

So far I haven't been able to find anything similar on the PAS site, or Google, so it may well be something very unusual, or perhaps something that would be re-melted down and that we don't often get to find.
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I forgot to say in the earlier reply, but the holes don't seem to pass through from one side to the other. :Thinking:
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That is interesting. My initial thought was part of a brooch. I can't see how a casting sprue would end up like that. It seems to have a design on each side. And it does indeed look old!
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Was it once hollow with the inside and holes now full of corrosion or dirt?
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As far as I can tell, it's a fairly solid item. I've just tried cleaning some of the dirt from the holes and I'm as sure as I can be that they don't go through to the opposite side.

I've just had a reply from my FLO and she is puzzled by it too, she said it reminds her of this early medieval strap fitting, but 'not quite'.
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I wonder if spikes/rods of some kind were fixed into those holes? Perhaps used to grip something?
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