Interesting (pilgrim?) item

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Found this today in an area I normally ignore. It’s copper, delicate and very light. It looks like it might be one part of a dress hook but my original thought was that it’s a type of pilgrim item. I think there might be a face looking forward but it’s very corroded.

There is sewn pilgrim badges dating to the 13th century that look similarish :D

Anyway am I projecting what I hope it is and it’s really something very boring?

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You say it's lightweight and it's hard to see if some of the holes are corrosion or openwork, but there definitely seem to be two circular holes for mounting. Book fitting?
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not boring at all . :thumbsup:
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An open-work buckle plate I would say, Medieval. Lightweight of course, so not something used for heavy wear...though of course the corrosion has made it seem lighter than it was when originally made and worn. It would be nice to see what the design was in detail. perhaps when it has 'rested' a tad it will be easier to work out. Then maybe you could use the design on some of your leather-work?
I am a great believer in visualisation...that we find what we focus on. I predict you will be finding lots and lots of items related to leather-work now! :)
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figgis wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:26 am You say it's lightweight and it's hard to see if some of the holes are corrosion or openwork, but there definitely seem to be two circular holes for mounting. Book fitting?
Yes definitely two mounting holes. Could be a book fitting :thumbsup:
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Littleboot wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:01 am An open-work buckle plate I would say, Medieval. Lightweight of course, so not something used for heavy wear...though of course the corrosion has made it seem lighter than it was when originally made and worn. It would be nice to see what the design was in detail. perhaps when it has 'rested' a tad it will be easier to work out. Then maybe you could use the design on some of your leather-work?
I am a great believer in visualisation...that we find what we focus on. I predict you will be finding lots and lots of items related to leather-work now! :)
Thanks Jan :thumbsup: I’m not convinced it’s buckle related because it really is too flimsy and I think it always was but I do agree that it might reveal itself a little more as it drys out and maybe some of the corrosion flakes off.

I do like the idea of using the design on my finds to inspire my leatherwork. I’ve been considering how I could re purpose some old buckles and those nice cast rings. Watch this space :D
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Interesting item with the decoration.
With those 2 holes, possibly one part of a hinge ?
Looks old whatever it turns out to be.
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Can I have a glass of whatever you've been drinking OG, I see nothing
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shaggybfc wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:19 pm Can I have a glass of whatever you've been drinking OG, I see nothing
No, drinks are not for sharing :Party:
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Oxgirl wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:58 pm drinks are not for sharing
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I reckon its a dress hook Cath, similar though not the same as this one :thumbsup:

https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/979147
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alloverover wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:24 pm I reckon its a dress hook Cath, similar though not the same as this one :thumbsup:

https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/979147
Thanks Phil, I am inclined to agree. Post medieval too I think although I can’t find one that’s quite like this :thumbsup:
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Oxgirl wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:28 pm Thanks Phil, I am inclined to agree. Post medieval too I think although I can’t find one that’s quite like this :thumbsup:
I got halfway through them on PAS database and gave up, there are some with a rectangular appature like your one but I didnt get to any with the same pattern cutout :thumbsup:
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alloverover wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:37 pm I got halfway through them on PAS database and gave up, there are some with a rectangular appature like your one but I didnt get to any with the same pattern cutout :thumbsup:
I have Read’s book on ‘hooked clasps and eyes’ and, despite there being thousands in there, I can’t find one that’s this shape. Still agree it is one though :D Thank you for looking, that’s really kind :thumbsup:
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