WW1 star medal

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Oxgirl wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2026 11:32 pm Superb result Evan :clapping:

I’m very glad the medals recipient not only survived the war, especially being in it for a long time, but also went on to have a long life. I hope the family treasure his medal.
Being in the ASC he had a much better chance of surviving than a lot of soldiers, as a lot of what they did was behind the front lines, although they obviously suffered heavy losses especially from enemy artillery, but percentage wise it was safer than most units.

Your soldier in a normal infantry regiment, the highest percentage of the army, was most at risk of being killed when the allies attacked when going across the open no-man's land. While a defender had the protection of the trench so was safer relatively.

The army unit with the highest percentage of casualties was the machine gun corps, which suffered terrible losses. This was because a few well positioned machine guns could decimate an infantry attack, so as soon as one was located it became a prime target for the artillery supporting an attack.
I have just found these figures: A total of 170,500 officers and men served in the MGC, of which 62,049 were killed, wounded or missing . Over 36% casualties, and a lot of those that served would have only been in the last few months rather than the duration of the war, so you can see how poor the chances were for anybody assigned to machine guns at the start of the war.

Some how it seems strange to realise that the odds of surviving the war or being killed depended largely on luck by which unit you were assigned to, which was largely random. Although in this case it does appear that common sense was applied (or was it luck?) in that he was assigned to a job where his pre-war civilian skills as a dreyman could be used.
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Wonder why it ended up lost?
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clint wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2026 12:28 am Wonder why it ended up lost?
I have known cases where they were thrown out in disgust, especially where awarded to a person that was killed in the war, and that was not uncommon. IF this is the case here there is a good chance that the British War Medal and Victory medal could be in the same area (hint to OdinsRavens to give the find spot a good going over!!)

Maybe a child played with it and lost it, I have heard of this. Maybe thrown out / dropped by accident.

Unlikely that we will ever know, if his family know the reason and tell OdinsRavens hopefully he will let us know.
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A few years ago a mate of mine found a war medal when detecting and managed to trace the family and return it. They had no clue why it was in a field miles from their home.
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Hats off Evan, great read and the information you’ve sourced, will keep updated as we go and thanks for your hard work and obvious passion, a credit to the forum :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
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In the early days of detecting I found loads of Pip, Squeak and Wilfreds as well as a few less common ones. Very unusual to return them as there was no Internet or social media (just imagine that :D ). Most unusual to find them now though. Also lots of cap badges. :thumbsup:
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fred wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2026 9:35 am In the early days of detecting I found loads of Pip, Squeak and Wilfreds as well as a few less common ones. Very unusual to return them as there was no Internet or social media (just imagine that :D ). Most unusual to find them now though. Also lots of cap badges. :thumbsup:
For those wondering what Fred is talking about Pip, Squeak and Wilfred are the affectionate names given to the three WW1 campaign medals — The 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal respectively. When the WW1 medals were issued in the 1920's it coincided with a popular comic strip published by the Daily Mirror where Pip was the dog, Squeak the penguin and Wilfred the young rabbit. For some reason the three names of the characters became associated with the three campaign medals being issued at that time and they stuck.

Likewise when only the British War Medal and Victory Medal are on display together they are sometimes known as “Mutt and Jeff”.

Having done family history for even longer than metal detecting pre-internet it was very different and involved going to local archives and working though the actual records, much harder and a lot more time consuming than now but somehow it gave a real connection to the people that you do not get now when its all online.

I have heard back from the relation of Charles Leaver I found on Ancestry and he will contact OdinsRaven.
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It is such a shame the war medals usually end up being scrapped for the silver. Such a loss of history.
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